Here is a followup to our post about a proposal before the Des Plaines City Council to move fire department dispatching to RED Center. From the JOURNALOnline:
“Our opinion is we’re just as good as them (RED).”
Des Plaines dispatchers are counting on the community to help them save the city’s 911 center.
Rebecca Brink, a longtime dispatcher at the center and union leader, has been circulating fliers touting the negative impacts switching the service could have on residents. She’s hoping that information will spur residents to join her at the Tuesday, Sept. 3 council meeting to persuade aldermen not to go ahead with a plan to join the Regional Emergency Dispatch (RED) Center in Northbrook.
The city is considering the switch to RED in order to save $133,272 annually. RED serves only fire dispatching, so police dispatching would continue at the Des Plaines Emergency Communications Center (DPECC), located on the second floor of city hall. The police department is reviewing options such as joining another dispatch center or retaining DPECC.
Park Ridge partners with Des Plaines in using the DPECC and would have to move with Des Plaines to RED together to make the plan feasible. The Park Ridge City Council approved the move earlier this week.
Morton Grove and Niles [police] pulled out of the DPECC earlier this year.
If Des Plaines moves to RED, dispatchers remaining at the DPECC would receive the initial call and then transfer fire incidents to RED. Brink said would cause delays as long as 45 seconds from the time a call goes through to when a fire apparatus is actually dispatched to a scene because both facilities need to confirm the callers information and location. She based that estimate on numbers from reviewing random calls.
However, Fire Chief Alan Wax said most towns involved with RED transfer to the Northbrook-based service as soon as the call is identified as a fire incident without taking specific information. The extra three to five seconds to transfer are more than made up for by RED’s efficiency.
[Brink] said the city should instead invest in $1.3 million of necessary equipment upgrades to modernize the service at the DPECC. Brink contended city officials failed to demand that the DPECC’s previous director, Sherrill Ornberg, prepare for those upgrades.
Wax did not dispute that previous officials should have saved, but said it was a decision made by DPECC’s administration and board.
Brink also argued that keeping police and fire dispatch together makes coordinating a response between agencies as easy as shouting across the room.
Wax, however, explained that while coordinating with police dispatchers under RED would require a phone call, the few seconds added is again offset by RED’s efficiency and level of service. Further, the agency is familiar with handling major situations and Wax called them the premier fire dispatch in the state. “We want to provide the best services to the citizens and the fire department,” Wax said, “and we have the opportunity to do that at less of a cost.”
Staff at the DPECC has dwindled to just more than 25 people, including 17 dispatchers, since the turmoil began. Both the director and deputy director have left in recent months as its future became more muddied. “We’re really doing our best to not have that impact the service citizens are getting,” Brink said.
The city council initially considered the switch to RED during their meeting last week, however delayed the vote until Sept. 3 to give more time for Brink and others to gather information. Brink hopes to show the council she and her co-workers are capable of matching RED’s service. “We’ve worked together as a team with Park Ridge since 1992,” she said. “Our opinion is we’re just as good as them (RED).”
#1 by Law Abiding Citizen on September 15, 2013 - 8:09 PM
The Red Board of Directors will vote officially on the 18th for DP and PR. Following that the process will start to transition.
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#2 by Joe on September 7, 2013 - 11:12 AM
The police and fire do not share a frequency in Rosemont. The police have their own frequency and Rosemont shares with Des Plaines FD and Park Ridge FD. A majority of Rosemont’s convention center and Allstate Arena traffic take place on the police frequency. Only fire and EMS at each location use the fire frequency. Most of the radio traffic between the Arena, convention center, traffic, and other details takes place on the police channel. Des Plaines and Park Ridge leaving the fire frequency will leave it largely empty. They’re taking close to 10,000 runs a year off of that channel. My point is that large towns in the area running many thousands of calls a year each are combining frequencies, why would Rosemont fire stay on the same channel when they run so infrequently?
Take for example Schaumburg, Hoffman Estates, and Streamwood fire departments. They recently combined dispatch frequencies. Between the 3 departments there are around 18,000 runs a year, possibly more. Why would a department running fewer than 5% that number of runs remain on their own channel? As I said before, clearly they’re free to do what they’d like to do and they have a more or less unlimited budget to support that, I was just curious if anyone had heard anything.
#3 by Scott on September 7, 2013 - 10:13 AM
RE: Rosemont, even thought the Fire “division” only runs around 800 calls, your fogetting the non-stop comm’s with all the special events at the Allstate Arena, Expo center, Traffic details, the hotels, etc, etc. They are their own town with their own needs and just fine doing what they do.
#4 by Rob on September 6, 2013 - 7:23 PM
Now that Des Plaines and Park Ridge will be joining Red. It would be great if Skokie, Evanston, Highland Park, Glencoe to join and have Glenview come back as well that would fill in all of Red Center MABAS Division 3 for dispatching.
#5 by Brian on September 6, 2013 - 10:08 AM
RED Center is among the best if not the best run fire dispatch centers in the state. RED and Orland Central do a phenomenal job!
#6 by Joe on September 5, 2013 - 11:05 PM
What about Rosemont? Last I knew they ran their own dispatch center but shared a frequency with Des Plaines and Park Ridge. Clearly Rosemont can stay on the same frequency, but it seems like it might be cost prohibitive and pretty pointless. The fire division of Rosemont Public Safety runs fewer than 800 calls a year. Although with a budget like Rosemont has, I’m not sure they care.
#7 by fmddc1 on September 5, 2013 - 9:56 AM
From what I understand its official. Both dept’s will move to red. Long over due!
#8 by Des Plaines Resident on September 5, 2013 - 12:27 AM
So Kevin does that mean its official? Des Plaines and Park Ride FD will be going to Red Center?
#9 by Kevin on September 4, 2013 - 1:09 AM
Des plaines city council voted 7-1 in favor of joining red center
#10 by Law Abiding Citizen on September 3, 2013 - 8:17 AM
DP & PR have an intergovernmental agreement signed for 2 years that if either agency leaves, they must do it together.
And yes, the 45 seconds is quite excessive.
#11 by David on September 2, 2013 - 3:16 PM
Des plaines and park ridge should make the change and the counsel if smart should sign the check and not question. The dispatcher does not have the facts and is lying. What I don’t understand is why does park ridge need des plaines to move