Excerpts from npr.org:
In a lot of cities across the country there’s a good chance that [when] you call 911 for an ambulance, a firetruck — with a full fire crew including a paramedic — will arrive. But that doesn’t mean they can deliver the emergency care you might need.
In Chicago, like many cities, the fire department oversees both firefighters and paramedics.
When a medical call comes in, dispatchers prefer to send ambulances. But there are half as many of those as there are firetrucks. And fire department spokesman Larry Langford says those ambulances can be super busy. Meanwhile, firetrucks are often much less busy and parked in firehouses, just minutes away from any given emergency. So the 911 dispatchers make a choice.
“They save valuable time by sending the closest vehicle, which is usually a firetruck that has at least one paramedic” Langford says.
That sounds logical until you ask why Chicago’s fire department still has twice as many firetrucks as ambulances, especially when the department gets 20 times more medical calls than fire calls.
Getting answers can be difficult. That has a lot to do with the political power of fire departments and their unions — and the challenge of trying to change that.
Chicago’s not alone in facing these challenges. Most cities are seeing big drops in fire calls and big jumps in medical calls. But few are really reforming their departments to meet this changing landscape.
Portland State researcher Phil Keisling thinks that’s a mistake. He looked at why fire departments don’t just admit that they’re mostly medical services these days.
“And I keep getting answers that are really not a whole lot more than, ‘Well, that’s the way we’ve always done it,’ ” he says. Keisling says that’s not a good answer “in a world that has limited resources and you want to try to optimize the resources you’ve got.”
As more cities see the drawbacks of using giant firetrucks for medical issues, they’re facing calls for reform. That’s what Misty Bruckner found when she researched the problem at the Public Policy Center at Wichita State. While she didn’t find agreement on everything, she said there was some consensus.
“I think everybody can agree that the ladder truck responding to someone who may have a sprained ankle is not the best use of our public resources,” she says.
Langford disagrees. And he thinks people shouldn’t get so hung up on what kind of vehicle arrives.
[but] firetrucks aren’t equipped to transport to a hospital. Only ambulances are. And this transport part can be crucial, according to veteran Chicago Paramedic Rich Raney.
“When you get a stroke patient or a trauma patient, the most important thing is that they be transported to the hospital as quickly as possible,” he says.
Each city runs its emergency services differently, so solutions are going to vary. In Chicago, for example, paramedics want more ambulances and staffing.
New York and Wichita recently started deploying medics in SUVs for less urgent calls. And Washington, D.C., is trying something called nurse triage lines. They let callers talk through their problems with a nurse on the phone. But Keisling says some proposals should also look at moving resources from large firefighting staffs.
“And it’s not anti-firefighter, it’s not anti-union, and it’s not anti-government,” he says. “It’s just, why aren’t we taking limited resources and deploying them in a smarter way?”
While there’s no agreement on exactly what that smarter way is going to be, most agree it doesn’t involve sending a firetruck to treat someone with heartburn.
thanks Dan
#1 by CrabbyMilton on April 14, 2017 - 6:40 AM
Here in Milwaukee from what I understand, every MFD firefighter is a trained EMT so the apparatus is operating as a squad. As stated chances are there is a fire station nearby but not every station has a med unit. So the squad is providing care and evaluating the situation. Much of the time, it’s not serious enough so a private ambulance will suffice and they can call off the med unit and free them up then the engine or ladder can return to service once the private ambulance takes over.
Some people just can’t understand that idea. In a perfect world, every station would have a paramedic unit but you think people cry about costs now, just wait until they do that. Cities have to spend money on stupid crap but I digress. Some say why use smaller squads for med runs but again, the pumper or ladder has most of the medical equipment plus, that should shut up the people that say they waste money on new apparatus so often. THEY DO GET USED!! As Donald Rumsfeld once said so well that if you try to please everyone, somebody’s not going to like it.
#2 by Max O on April 12, 2017 - 11:27 PM
It’s sounds like a combination of too few ambulances and too many “frequent flyers.” I like the idea of a PR campaign of only using 911 for real emergencies.
#3 by Marty Coyne on April 12, 2017 - 8:51 PM
I get the increased medical calls however when there is a fire those engines, trucks, towers etc are needed. Ambulances can’t fight a fire. That’s why you still need an adequate number of fire rigs. There may be less fires, but with today’s construction techniques they’re hotter and more dangerous.
#4 by Bill Post on April 12, 2017 - 8:18 PM
Some fire departments handle the overload of non urgent medical transportation requests by only using their ambulances for life threatening or potential life threatening emergencies. Non urgent calls or the BLS calls are given to private ambulance companies to handle. Seattle, Washington is probably the best example of that kind of system which they have been using since the beginning of their famous “Medic One Program” in 1969. It began strictly as a program for cardiac emergencies and they only ran with three ALS ambulances. Since then Seattle has converted four of their BlS first aid squads (which were BLS first responder ambulances) into ALS Medic One units. Now Seattle runs with only seven ALS Medic One ambulances in a city with over 684,000 people covering slightly less then 84 square miles. Seattle does provide first responder service, but private ambulances are dispatched to the non life threatening calls so the ALS units are only used for the most serious emergencies.
Our neighbors in Milwaukee use a similar system where the fire department runs only 12 ALS ambulances to be used for the most serious emergencies. The city is divided into three BLS zones where one of the three private ambulance companies dispatch their ambulances (depending on the zone that the emergency is located in) to the BLS calls where they will transport BLS patients to the hospital. The population of Milwaukee is about 600,000 and the city is 96 square M\miles. Chicago is 227 square miles with a population of based on the latest statistics. Chicago would need many more ALS ambulances then Seattle or Milwaukee, but an idea could be to use the CFD ambulances for the urgent emergencies while the low priority BLS calls could be given to private ambulance companies.
Another approach that quite a few towns are now either using or beginning to use are keeping track of the habitual 911 users otherwise known as frequent flyers. These are referred to a nurse practitioner and /or paramedic who will go to the patient’s home and do an evaluation. They follow up on the patient and show them how to take care of themselves. There a few western fire departments that have non-urgent care vans which are sent to the home of habitual ambulance and emergency room users. They treat them at home without having to make use of an ambulance which can be better used for a real emergency. The Tucson Fire Department runs with three Alpha Response Trucks which are sent to low acuity medical calls. Mesa, Arizona has a similar system however it didn’t work for Phoenix which could be due size of the city. The Los Angeles City Fire Department is trying out that idea now by putting in service Nurse Practitioner 1, a van which is currently assigned to the Watts neighborhood running out of Fire Station 64.
#5 by Rich S. on April 12, 2017 - 7:30 PM
The city does need more ambulances because the work load is heavy “real emergencies” or not. That said we are the second largest professional fire department in this country we absolutely need 5 members on a company and we absolutely need the current amount of fire companies in this city. These individuals conducting studies have no real life understanding of what our profession in-tales. It is dangerously demanding of our physical ,mental and emotional states – suicide is through the roof, 63 times more likely to have cancer, heart attacks out of control in this profession. Please stop trying to fix a profession and a program that works perfectly they current way. The Chicago fire department is set just right leave us alone.
#6 by Rob on April 12, 2017 - 5:47 PM
Anyone know if the 16 new ambulances will be extra ambulances or are they replacing the junk ones they got a few years ago?
#7 by LT501 on April 12, 2017 - 1:10 PM
Is the issue too few ambulances…or too many “frequent flyers” ? The City should begin a PR campaign urging it’s citizens not to call 911 except for true emergencies. The abuse of EMS in Chicago has become a serious drain on these valuable resources. The City has enough financial concerns. Time to crack down and stop using ALS ambulances as “taxi’s” to the local ER.