Josh Boyajian and Martin Nowak both spotted ‘in-progress’ images from Crimson of a new Spartan Gladiator cab and chassis for Chicago HERE.
In addition, progress photos can be seen HERE for the new engine for O’Hare Airport and HERE for the new engine for the training academy.
#1 by glynch on February 11, 2012 - 12:03 PM
who is getting the engine at the airport
#2 by ffpm571 on January 30, 2012 - 9:49 PM
Bill,
The Ford E-one was sold. Some guy was using it as a mobile bbq/ DJ truck last I saw it for sale on Ebay
#3 by mike on January 30, 2012 - 4:36 PM
They got away with Pierce because they are Pierces of SH!T. they have had several ladder failures since getting these and of course Pierce didn’t stand by their warranty. Not that Crimson is the end all fix but at least from a mechanical stand point they’re all Spartans. A lot of guys want the E-ones back because of the short jack placement and if you look at some of the spares around they’re E-one so they’re proven.
#4 by chris on January 29, 2012 - 6:17 PM
as far as i know the old ford was sold awhile back and they where using a 97hme and the 02spartan for the academy
#5 by Sebastian on January 29, 2012 - 2:47 PM
I have 2 questions!! Why did the CFD get away from pierce in the new truck orders??? And if and when will the squads be replaced??
#6 by Bill Friedrich on January 29, 2012 - 1:01 PM
Mike as far as showing the newest rigs assigned to each house in the index, there are many photographers who shoot Chicago apparatus that should be contributing. I have 90% of the newest rigs, I just do not want to step on toes. Check out my website.
#7 by Bill Friedrich on January 29, 2012 - 12:59 PM
The two engines at the Quinn Fire Academy are as follows:
D-517 1988 Ford C8000/E-One 1250/500
D-599 2001 Spartan GL/Luverne 1500/500
My guess is they will replace the old Ford as there are no E-One Engines in the fleet. The Luverne is the newest. As you may or may not know, Luverne was purchased by Crimson and very little was changed, so the pump panel, the hose bed, and compartment configuration remained the same.
#8 by Mike on January 29, 2012 - 9:39 AM
Are all of the newest truck companies in service? Also anyone know where the pump and truck being built currently at Crimson are going to be assigned? Lastly will anyone ever update the photos in the Chicago index to the current assignments, many photos still show older oos pieces (ie: E23-E14) just to name a few and others, thank you great site
#9 by Richie B. on January 29, 2012 - 2:21 AM
John–you pose a very valid question! It is because it is vital for firefighters to be able to train and become very comfortable with their apparatus. While to the un-trained eye, it may seem that many fire apparatus “look the same” there may be vast operational differences between them. While most Chicago engines are built fairly similarly, there are differences between the “generations” of apparatus. So for the Candidate (rookie) firefighters, it is important that they learn how to deploy hose, find equipment, etc. off of this “generation” of rig. Also, it is extremely important for the Engineers (the ones who drive and pump the rigs) to know the layout and operation of the apparatus’s pump and other system.
They do not put a new rig at the academy every time they order new apparatus. This is only done with large orders (as is this order of Crimson engine companies….it will make up a large part of the fleet). For instance, there were several 2006 Pierce trucks ordered, but due to the small number, there was none placed at the academy. Also, the last generation of engine companies was also skipped.
Hope this helps!
#10 by Jacob on January 29, 2012 - 12:44 AM
If I remember correctly the academy engine is still fairly new maybe 5 years old or so. The only thing I could think of to replace it would be it could have been a lemon or something.
#11 by John on January 28, 2012 - 8:32 PM
Not a fireman, but just curious….why do departments (at least the ones that are large like Chicago) order brand new, built-to-order trucks for the training academy? With a fleet like Chicago’s, wouldn’t it be more cost effective (and achieve the same purpose) by sending an older model, currently front-line unit to the training academy and then place this new order in front-line service? There must be a good reason, but I just can’t come up with it. Thanks.
#12 by ffpm571 on January 28, 2012 - 10:14 AM
What will happen to the current academy engine? Will it be reassigned to a company?
#13 by chris on January 28, 2012 - 8:31 AM
looks like they startd a new truck body aswell