This from Josh Boyajian:
LaGrange’s new Ferrera Engine was sitting outside LaGrange Parks firehouse Thursday afternoon. I stopped by and grabbed a few pics!
Thanks Josh
Josh Boyajian photo
Josh Boyajian photo
Josh Boyajian photo
New engine for LaGrange
#1 by FD guy IL on December 6, 2012 - 12:47 PM
Looks pretty cool nice rig on this side of MABAS 10
#2 by Tom Foley on December 6, 2012 - 12:06 AM
This previous post had some info: http://chicagoareafire.com/blog/2012/10/new-engine-for-lagrange/
#3 by DMc77 on December 5, 2012 - 10:46 PM
Any specs on the rig- i.e. tank size, gpm, etc?
#4 by Scott on December 5, 2012 - 8:55 PM
For Dennis, as far as apparatus, they went from Open cabs to Enclosed cabs (Sqd’s, auto-cars in CFD) back to open and then back to closed cabs. Quite a turn of events since motorized apparatus first came about.
#5 by Dennis on December 4, 2012 - 6:00 PM
LaGrange did an outstanding job specing this rig. If someone from the 1950s woke up and saw this they would be jealous that the guys are riding inside and all the hose and tools are in compartments. Just like someone from the 1900s would wake up in 1955 and think these guys have improved a lot. The fire engines for today are not designed for just fires. The engines, trucks, squads, rescues, and quints are ever changing just like the fire service is ever changing and adopting to the needs that are current.
#6 by OMFPD1 on December 4, 2012 - 4:08 PM
@David :
Yeah, Someone from the 1950s would have a stroke, I mean.. Really! Its semi-ugly. But ive seen it , and i guess what gets the job done , gets the job done!
#7 by scott on December 3, 2012 - 5:55 PM
888’s are still made and sold.
As previously mentioned, towns need to utilize their apparatus for more than one specialty. Manpower is down (entire staffing for the Dept to shift as well), more has to be done with less. Hence, the “rescue body” engine. Still has hose, tank and a pump which is what STILL works to put out fire.
#8 by chris r on December 3, 2012 - 12:39 PM
Its because fire departments need to carry more equipment nowadays and more calls. Calls like ems , haz mat , carbon monoxide calls and other style calls . The bodies are more square for 1) more storage and equipment 2) keep equipment out of the weather like ladders, extinguishers, hand tools etc . 3) with a square box no where for rain or snow to collect , less places for rust to collect .
#9 by David on December 3, 2012 - 12:37 PM
Well the technology has sure made some progress in the last 50 yrs but I think that the design has simply declined. It’s really functionality over design now, just as you said. I think the style had always it’s place in this trade so I don’t see a point in having hi-tech but ugly equipment. Interesting question about the 888s, not sure but I think they still make them:
http://www.triliteinc.com/products/mars-888-traffic-breaker.cfm
#10 by Another Dan on December 3, 2012 - 12:04 PM
Mike,
Rescue style engines generally carry thier ladders within the rear of the engine, similar to some truck set ups. Also, pump panels seem to be getting put behing doors as well. You’d be surprised how much stuff can go on these engines with the right compartment set ups.
David, just my opinion, but I think it’s at least somewhat of a traditional / conservative style compared to a lot of the stuff Pierce seems to think is good looking these days. I give Sutphen credit for having some older styles still in use, but not many people around here seem to use them.
#11 by Dan on December 3, 2012 - 11:10 AM
They’d be impressed….because FDs are choosing functionality/usefulness over “style.”
#12 by Mike McAuliffe on December 3, 2012 - 9:40 AM
Three quick questions: 1. Why do so many of the new engines look like heavy resuces? 2. Do they still carry a ground ladder? 3. Do they still make Mars 888s or are they recycled from old rigs?
Thank you in advance for any replies.
#13 by David on December 3, 2012 - 3:01 AM
When looking at this box-shaped thing I’m just wondering where’s the style of the oldschool engines gone. I better not try to imagine what somebody from the 1950s would think if he woke up today and saw this:D