Found at firetruckmall.com:
2008 Pierce Velocity 100′ Platform
Waterous 2000 GPM Pump, 300 Gallon Tank, Cummins Diesel
- Stock#: 17842
- 2008 Pierce
- Velocity Chassis
- Length: 47′
- Truck Height: 12′ 3″
- Wheelbase: 257″
- GVWR: 54,240
- Seating for 5; 3 SCBA seats
- Mileage: 56,000
- Engine hours: 2,131
- Aerial hours: 133
- Pump hours: 1319
- Cummins ISM 500 HP diesel engine
- Engine Brake
- Allison automatic transmission
- Waterous CSUC 2000-GPM pump
- 300-gallon Polypropylene Tank
#1 by Mike C on January 17, 2024 - 6:14 PM
Hairy – The age of a vehicle often times does not warrant when it will be replaced. This truck doesn’t have that many miles or hours on it. The fact is, this Pierce truck did not serve Bartlett well and it failed them.
#2 by Mike on January 17, 2024 - 9:53 AM
Hairy what are you talking about? “Ladders don’t last 15 years…” LOL, why wouldn’t a ladder last more than 15 years? Especially if it’s mostly chasing ambulances. Maybe we can start a list of pierce ladder junk in Illinois. I’ll start:
Carpentersville
Lincolnshire
Bartlett
Bloomington
Hoffman estates
These are a few that have had frame and or torque box failures while being under 20 years old. Let’s keep adding and see how much junk was in Illinois.
#3 by Harry on January 17, 2024 - 9:23 AM
Mike c this truck lasted 3 years longer than there previous eone 15 years for a ladder is pushing it most depts don’t do 15 years
#4 by Mike C on January 17, 2024 - 7:40 AM
Problem #1 – This truck ran mostly EMS calls. No apparatus builder, not even the best, build a truck designed for EMS runs day in / day out.
Problem #2 – This truck doesn’t even have many hours or miles.
Problem #3 – Why in the world would Bartlett order another Pierce when this truck failed them? That blows my mind! Pierce has a key to peoples brain! They wine and dine people all the time and persuade them to buy another rig. It’s pretty amazing!
#5 by Chuck on January 16, 2024 - 9:23 PM
Rather than a torque box and a frame why not just a brand new chassis? If the ladder itself is in good shape that might be a better faster way to go.
#6 by Joe on January 16, 2024 - 8:24 AM
The frame can be replaced fairly easy by the manufacturer. We had our 2003 Pierce aerial frame replaced, torque box repaired, minor body work and miscellaneous other repairs completed in 2016 for approximately $135,000 including hauling to and from there refurb plant. It was a 3-4 month process and worked out pretty well. Ours had over a 100,000 miles at the time. Pierce started offering “E Coat” later in 2013 (not sure if that has solved some issue’s)? They do offer galvanized frames and components now. Not sure if that is the fix either. A lot of the deiceing products are really corrosive. I have heard that the Beet juice is 10x more corrosive than calcium chloride? The trouble starts around the rear tandems, where the frame is doubled or as they call it has a liner. It is next to impossible to keep those products washed out. The Midwest is horrible for corrosion. This truck may be a good buy if you pick it up for the right price and have a proper refurb done, especially considering the lead time on a new unit and the cost of new units. I am sure Pierce is backed up!
#7 by Michael m on January 16, 2024 - 7:15 AM
Does anyone know how the Rosenbauer engines are holding up?
#8 by Michael m on January 16, 2024 - 7:14 AM
What I don’t understand is why they are going to order another Pierce since they have had so much trouble with this one. The 2021 engines are both Rosenbauers why not order a Rosenbauer aerial on a Commander chasis to match the engines. I believe they still have both Pierce engines in reserve. This tower does not have very many miles on it for as old as it is and for all the times it has chased the ambulance and gone to the grocery store.
Does anyone know if they have any plans to replace the tanker?
#9 by Michael m on January 16, 2024 - 3:09 AM
How could the frame be replaced? I am guessing they would have to remove the body and the aerial from the frame, replace the frame, then put the body back on the frame. I am guessing if they would replace the torque box the process would be similar. Either way I am sure that is a very expensive process. What did Pierce do or not do that causes problems with torque boxes and frames? Did they not coat the frames so they would not be damaged by salt? In an ideal world shouldn’t all frames have some coating on them to protect against corrosion? Especially a rig that is going to the department in the Midwest?
#10 by Mike on January 15, 2024 - 6:46 PM
If I remember correctly this thing needs a torque box and a frame. I doubt anyone is going to buy this turd. Nice job pierce another pile of garbage.