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#1 by Dennis on May 15, 2012 - 12:10 PM
@Jacob, I’m not sure if they’re made public or not.
I stand corrected as far as Squad 1 having more runs then Squad 5.
2010 Totals:
Squad 5-2,107 runs
Squad 2-1,804 runs
Squad 1-1,357 runs
Squad 7-1,010 runs
Busiest Engine: Engine 38-4,969 runs
Busiest Truck: Truck 20-4,218 runs
Busiest Battalion: Batt. 1-2,822 runs
Busiest Deputy District Chief: DDC2-243 runs
Busiest Command Van: 271-771 runs
#2 by DH on May 14, 2012 - 4:40 PM
Mike & Brian – Quint 3 is classified as a truck on most of the box cards, and currently the Quint responds as RIT to Burbank on the Full Still, Bridgeview on the Box Alarm, Hometown as the 2nd due engine on the Still, North Palos on the Box or 2-11, and Central Stickney Industrial Box Alarm 92. I don’t see Squad 1 listed on any Div 21 cards though. Appears Burbank took the place of them…
#3 by Brian on May 14, 2012 - 4:01 PM
I am not sure if Oak Lawn is on any box cards with a squad anymore since they made that change. As far as Quint 3, I don’t believe that Oak Lawn is on any box cards with a truck so any out of town response would be with an engine company and I doubt Oak Lawn would run the Quint out of town, probably a different engine company would take that in. Not 100% on it though.
#4 by mike McAuliffe on May 13, 2012 - 11:58 PM
I’m all for mutual aid Brian and there should be a lot more of it. In this particular case, it just doesn’t seem like the highest and best use of the asset.
By the way, how does MABAS view (for assignment purposes) Oak Lawn’s Squad 1, now that the manning has been reduced and they are running with an engine, albeit a rescue-engine ? Do they go outside their city limits anymore?
If you don’t mind a related question, how do the response cards classify Quint 3? Are they a truck or an engine?
#5 by Jacob on May 13, 2012 - 2:21 AM
Dennis r those stats available to the public? If so, where can I view them. Thanks.
#6 by Dennis on May 12, 2012 - 11:58 AM
Actually last year’s stats list Squad 5 behind Squad 1 in the number of runs; and yes the squads go on all working fires, although that doesn’t mean they actually do any work at the fires, a lot of times they are held up before getting there.
#7 by DMcInerney on May 11, 2012 - 4:18 PM
CFD Squad 7 goes to Franklin Park on a 2-11, if not on a box. They may have other suburban extra alarm assignments that I can’t think of at the moment.
#8 by Brian on May 11, 2012 - 11:13 AM
Mike, former Commissioner Hoff more than understood how MABAS and the suburbs work. He made huge strides in the working relationship between the City and the surrounding suburbs.
CFD Squad 5 is the box squad for Oak Lawn and was next due. Would they have been RIT on arrival (had they gotten there), it is hard to say. I do know that the Full-Still Squad (who was preassigned as RIT on the box card) had to pass and Division 21 went to the next squad due which was Squad 5. CFD agrees to MABAS box cards, this isn’t something that Oak Lawn or any other suburb just throws out there and says “let’s bring out Squad 5 cause it’ll be fun”
#9 by Bill Post on May 11, 2012 - 11:11 AM
I agree with you on your point about Squad 5 Mike. Not only is Squad 5 the only squad located on the south side, but it is also the busiest squad in the city and has the largest running district of all of the squads as well.
Even though I don’t see this actually happening because of Chicago’s financial problems, the south side could actually use another squad company because of the large area that needs to be served, not to mention the actual runs.
A very good argument in favor of a second south side squad for the far south side is the fact that the CFD has two Command Vans on the south side to cover the area and both types of units normally get dispatched on working fires. We should actually have an equal number of squads to Command vans because of that policy.
Engine 122’s house is a good house to cover the far south side from because of it’s central location and being near the Dan Ryan Expressway. The current Squad 5 actually was originally put in service at Engine 122’s station in September of 1983 (temporarily as Squad 6). As you know both the 22nd and the 23rd Battalions are very busy and that location would put a squad closer to both of those battalions.
#10 by Mike McAuliffe on May 11, 2012 - 10:11 AM
Thanks for the information. I doubt if this policy will last for long. Truck 31 or 45 would not suffice as a RIT? Someone is not thinking this through.
Squad 7 collects dust at the airport and they probably love to be RIT for Bennsenville, etc. But to tie up the only squad company on the south side as a suburban RIT?
Sounds like the CFD needs a liaison officer and that person really has to undersand how the suburbs operate.
#11 by Brian on May 10, 2012 - 10:26 PM
Oak Lawn had a full-still and the full-still RIT Squad had to pass and the next due Squad is CFD Squad 5 on the box so they were coming in as RIT but were returned while enroute when command was able to assign another company on scene as RIT.
#12 by Mike McAuliffe on May 10, 2012 - 3:33 PM
This is a question not directly related to the memo but I was hoping someone could enlighten me on it. Last week, I heard Englewood direct Squad 5 to a fire in Oak Lawn. The office held them up after only a few mintues. I was also scanning Oak Lawn at the time although I was not paying much attention to it. Oak Lawn may have had a fire, but I believe it would have been only a fire. I did not hear the tones for a box alarm or a Mayday, or anything unusual. Does anyone know what this was all about?