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New truck for St Charles FD

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St Charles, IL – Velocity 100 RM – Job # 36407

Pierce photo

thanks Danny

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11 Comments

#1 by Mike C on March 9, 2022 - 11:21 AM

Pierce definitely doesn’t live rent free on my end. Pierce is my job security. I think for those who don’t know me don’t realize that I’ve worked on just about every brand of fire apparatus throughout my nearly 2 decades in the industry as an EVT. I am in full understanding that Pierce sells far more apparatus than other builders, but I’m also well aware of the quality or there lack of. I think that most Pierce buyers are appealed to the broad product line and all of the latest innovations. Pierce is great at innovating and creating new ideas, but there is a long history of low quality. Anyone who truly knows fire apparatus, can attest to this.
#2 by Chris W on March 8, 2022 - 10:48 AM

Pierce is living rent free in Mike C’s head. Can you imagine being so distraught that you’ve got to bash every department that buys a Pierce rig? Insinuating with each post that the Department, Its Members and their respective Vehicle Committees are morons for purchasing said vehicle. I wonder what type of car Mike C drives? I wonder if he has done the same due diligence in researching the manufacturer and recall history of his personal vehicle as much as he does Pierce.
#3 by Mike C on March 4, 2022 - 11:47 AM

Mike p. – What is there to justify? I don’t think my first comment was opinionated. Truck 101 has spent significant time out of service for maintenance/repairs. The torque box had rust on it a few years ago. Pierce pushed back on repairing or addressing this issue until they found out St. Charles was looking to purchase a few new engines. I’m not trying to stir the pot, the fact is, Truck 101 hasn’t served the city well.

Pierce failures over the past 5 years:

– The Dash CF chassis was improperly engineered leading to overheating issues and ultimately, discontinuing this chassis due to poor design.
– The Ascendant ladders were recalled shortly after their release due to major structural/integrity issues with the ladder.
– The Command Zone had a recall due to ladders moving without the operator’s command and leading to ladders colliding with buildings or other objects.
– The TAK-4 front suspension has had multiple recalls, some as serious where wheels fell off while the fire apparatus was in motion.
– Pierce has had hundreds of pieces of fire apparatus with heavy frame rail corrosion. Pierce indirectly acknowledges they have a problem with biodegradable frame rails by announcing all frame rails going forward will have E-Coat Corrosion Protection.
#4 by Mike p. on March 3, 2022 - 7:28 PM

Mike C. Who are you and where are you getting your information? You are not member of this department as i am. Everyone is entitled their opinion, however how are you justifying this?
#5 by harry on March 3, 2022 - 6:21 PM

well all in all if pierce was so bad why do depts keep buying these rigs when there is other choices i know they like them
#6 by Mike C on March 3, 2022 - 3:41 PM

I’m not mad, I just think it’s flat out foolish for them to purchase this after the 2009 Arrow XT Ladder has been a unreliable and biodegradable mess. In addition, they have 3 Dash CF chassis’ which was a really nice concept that ultimately, flopped due to a major engineering flaw.

Pierce failures over the past 5 years:

– The Dash CF chassis was improperly engineered leading to overheating issues and ultimately, discontinuing this chassis due to poor design.
– The Ascendant ladders were recalled shortly after their release due to major structural/integrity issues with the ladder.
– The Command Zone had a recall due to ladders moving without the operator’s command and leading to ladders colliding with buildings or other objects.
– The TAK-4 front suspension has had multiple recalls, some as serious where wheels fell off while the fire apparatus was in motion.
– Pierce has had hundreds of pieces of fire apparatus with heavy frame rail corrosion. Pierce indirectly acknowledges they have a problem with biodegradable frame rails by announcing all frame rails going forward will have E-Coat Corrosion Protection.
#7 by harry on March 3, 2022 - 3:10 PM

yes the seagrave is a 1997
#8 by Mike hellmuth on March 3, 2022 - 1:55 PM

I agree Crabby!
#9 by crabbymilton on March 3, 2022 - 12:25 PM

Uh Oh. Mike C is gonna get mad. I would rather see more SEAGRAVE anyway.
#10 by Cmk420 on March 3, 2022 - 12:24 PM

I would tend to agree. They have had that Seagrave for well over 10 years. It was in reserve when I did my paramedic cliniical/internship back in 2012.
#11 by harry on March 3, 2022 - 12:19 PM

will this replace the pierce or the seagrave i would say the seagrave