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New engine for Lombard FD

This from Tim Right:

Lombard orders new engine and sells old engine and old tower ladder.

 

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8 Comments

• #1 by Tim on August 15, 2020 - 4:06 PM

  

  Heres my thoughts: Tower ladders cost alot of money to maintain. With the village most likely buying a new tower ladder to replace the current in service ladder truck in the next couple years i will guess that this one is costing alot of money to maintain and its better to sell and hold onto an extra engine until the other tower is replaced down the road. Then the current tower becomes the spare. That’s my best guess. Happy Saturday!

• #2 by crabbymilton on August 15, 2020 - 8:55 AM

  

  If everybody would say that the department next door has enough, nobody would ever buy anything. MABAS doesn’t mean anything if it’s used to let everyone else to do it for you.

• #3 by Bill Post on August 15, 2020 - 5:19 AM

  

  In regards to truck or ladder companies based on ISO standards, a ladder or service company with truck company equipment, should be located within 2.5 miles of “built upon” areas in their district. Loosely translated 2.5 miles is about a five minute drive under ideal conditions. The standards for engine companies are 1.5 miles. It doesn’t make a difference if the company is from that town’s fire department or a neighboring department as long as it responds automatically on the initial alarm. The ladder company needs to respond as automatic aid as opposed to mutual aid if it is first due. So mutual aid itself is inadequate unless it is part of an automatic aid agreement. The bottom line is to get a truck company on the scene of an incident within 5 to 8 minutes. Eight minutes is the maximum recommended drive time allotted for a full structure response for a simple house fire. The first due engine company has to be within a four minute drive.

  Standard 1710 from the National Fire Protection Association was upgraded last year. It requires a second due apparatus to be within a six minute drive for the incident while the full dispatch compliment is due within an eight minutes.

  Canman is correct that if the first due truck isn’t arriving with the first engine, then it really shouldn’t be arriving more then 6 or 7 minutes from the station.

  If there is a problem economically or operationally justifying a separate ladder company, then it makes more sense to operate a quint. The rule is that if a quint is first due, it is used as an engine company. If it is second due then it works as a truck company. Addison went to an all quint system a few years ago as a way of using their limited resources more efficiently.

  A few departments staff their trucks as jump companies with an ambulance. The problem is what to do if the ambulance is out on a run. So you really need more then one ambulance to be able do things that way, and it still is a gamble. Deerfield runs their truck as a jump company with Ambulance 20, but if the ambulance is not in quarters, they are out of luck for the truck.

• #4 by Canman on August 14, 2020 - 8:21 PM

  

  I always love the Comment “everyone around them has a truck” or “just call mutual aid” because that’s what makes sense for a mutual aid truck to show up what ?? 8-10 mins later. Not every town around Lombard has trucks and the ones that do are grossly delayed due to distance , or worse yet it’s a jump company that isn’t manned. But that’s what you get from people who don’t believe in a truck company on scene following an engine. What the minimum time for first due truck to arrive? Lombard has 17 hi-rises over 7 stories (11 of which are unprotected) , 210 what most call midrises Apt buildings between 2-6 stories most of which are in the trucks first due… Too many depts use that mutual aid as an excuse which is why trucks are always browned out or sold first

• #5 by Brian on August 14, 2020 - 2:27 PM

  

  Oak Lawn for the longest time was ISO 1 without their own truck company. They used auto-aid to have a truck due to every part of their district.

• #6 by Jim on August 14, 2020 - 1:24 PM

  

  Big Moe,

  Nearly every town surrounding Lombard has a ladder truck via mutual aid. A lot of the suburban counties could probably do a better job pooling large and specialized equipment. ISO loves lots of equipment and that often seems to be a factor in having it. But when every town around you has some kind of tower ladder, straight stick or mid mount ladder, the need for two in a single district is tough to justify.

• #7 by Big Moe on August 14, 2020 - 1:18 PM

  

  Lombard has a lot of large commercial and residential multiple dwellings. I am surprised they are not keeping a spare truck or staffing both trucks with a jump co. ambo crew for the 2nd one. I would think they are pretty busy.

• #8 by harry on August 14, 2020 - 12:11 PM

  

  e45 just got a new one a year or so ago then 44 about 6 years ago so that would mean 45 old and 44old should be spare then

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