Excerpts from the Chicagotribune.com:
Some Streeterville residents, along with elected leaders, say they think the number of ambulances traveling through the downtown neighborhood is rising, as is the siren volume — and they want the fire department to do something about it.
A two-hour community meeting was hosted by the Streeterville Organization of Active Residents, a community group that has worked for five years to reduce noise it says is disrupting the peace of the lakefront community.
Downtown residents acknowledge that the wail of sirens isn’t new — especially in Streeterville, which is home not only to Northwestern Memorial Hospital but also Lurie Children’s Hospital. It’s likely the children’s hospital, which opened five years ago, increased the number of ambulances in the neighborhood.
One fire department official told the audience that the department’s ambulance sirens aren’t louder than they used to be and meet federal regulation. Still, the department is sensitive to concerns and has made at least 11 common-sense policy changes citywide over the years, such as reducing the frequency of activating sirens, aiming the sirens toward traffic in front of the emergency vehicle, and lowering the sirens from the roofs to the vehicle grilles, Fire Department spokesman Larry Langford told the audience.
Siren volumes on fire department ambulances and emergency vehicles are locked by the manufacturer — meaning that drivers can only turn them on and off — and meet federal regulations, Langford said. Lowering the volume, as some requested, is not a legal option, he told the group.
At 120 decibels, the sirens are just below the 123-decibel limit set by federal regulation. The sirens are at levels that get the attention of motorists, along with pedestrians on their phones or listening to music, Langford added.
The average citizen can handle short doses of a 120-decibel siren passing them, but prolonged exposure to it can lead to hearing loss, according to Dr. Dennis Moore, an assistant professor with Loyola Medicine’s otolaryngology department.
Moore did offer some advice to people on the street. “Typically it’s probably prudent if people are out and about if there’s sirens going by, I would literally stop what I’m doing and put my hands over my ears,” he said. “It’s like if something is too bright, you put sunglasses on. I always tell people we have eyelids, but we don’t have ear lids. They can’t close themselves up.”
Streeterville is a special challenge, Langford said during the meeting, because of the high density of people living, visiting and shopping in an area that’s home to two busy hospitals. While fire officials can make changes to lessen the impact on passers-by and pedestrians, they have less control over sounds that invade the area buildings, he said.
Some relief from the sirens could come next year when the University of Chicago Medicine’s trauma center opens on the South Side, diverting some of the patients who would go to Northwestern, according to Langford and Assistant Deputy Fire Commissioner Richard Edgeworth.
thanks Scott
#1 by max o on September 4, 2017 - 2:53 PM
These people would be the first to complain that an ambulance couldn’t get there fast enough. Why do people often take the Police and Fire Departments for granted?
#2 by John on August 29, 2017 - 12:32 PM
It’s the law to use the siren while moving with emergency lights on. Paramedics are being nice while turning them off on side streets, but technically they should be on while the apparatus is in motion. Imagine how we feel listening to that siren all day. The new ambulances for CFD are even louder in the cab and some paramedics where hearing protection.
#3 by Austin on August 28, 2017 - 9:18 PM
I read an article about this online via Facebook either from the Trib or DNA info. One person commenting (who lives in that neighborhood) said “some people don’t have a choice on where they live.” And basically said people need to take pity on them (paraphrasing a little). I hadn’t laugh so hard in a while. This is truly people with to much time on there hands. I use to live by Irving Park and Southport and there were always fire trucks and ambos going by. Never bothered me one bit. I would rather have loud sirens then these quiet ones you here out in the burbs sometimes.
#4 by mike mc on August 28, 2017 - 7:15 PM
Real air horns like on the engines and trucks, not the smaller air horns they have now. Taxis and other drivers that are familiar with the loop know that it is an ambulance coming and not a rig. They are not as worried about getting hit by an ambo and are less inclined to get out of the way and more inclined to challenge it and cross the intersection ahead of it or make a left turn in front of it.
Easy to make fun of the residents but just imagine what it would be like if 20 to 30 ambos a day went down your street with the sirens going. I think it would get old fast. Downtown, the building can create an echo chamber and the sound can be worse than say, 95th and California.
#5 by Marty Coyne on August 28, 2017 - 3:52 PM
CFD ambos have air horns. Even running with an opticom you still need the siren. People need to stop whining and appreciate that they get help when they need it.
#6 by mike mc on August 28, 2017 - 8:52 AM
Ditto on the Q2B siren. They are loud and some CFD ambulances play with the siren and make weird, unusual sounds that even a life long fire fan would call “disturbing”. Air horns on the ambos might help.
Emergency vehicle preemption systems would be the answer but I doubt if we will see them unless the mayor can get corporate sponsors from businesses and condos in the area.
#7 by CrabbyMilton on August 28, 2017 - 6:09 AM
You don’t even have to read beyond the second paragraph to understand that a bunch of people have way too much time on their hands and complain about something that enhances safety. Yes, sirens are loud and that’s kind of the point so get stupid idiots out of the way. What if one of them were in the ambulance with a life threatening medical condition or injury? Same bunch that complains about medical helicopters and train horns.
#8 by Mike on August 27, 2017 - 10:18 PM
I’m guessing the use of the electronic Q2B that has become so prolific on all the ambulances has something to do with it. Not only because they are loud, but by design they are not an instant on/instant off siren like the traditional yelp and wail “police car” siren. The Q winds up and coasts down electronically and by default just gets left on till arrival at scene or hospital.
#9 by LT501 on August 27, 2017 - 9:04 PM
The complaints seem rather petty to me. I am 100% in favor of siren use from dispatch to arrival at scene. It’s use not only expedites safe passage through traffic, but reassures the caller/victims that help is on the way. However, once the patient is stabilized in the ambulance, I feel the medics should use discretion on siren use. It may even agitate certain heart and psych patients. I believe Illinois law requires both emergency lights and siren be activated whenever fire and EMS request the “right of way”…but gives leniency to the police requiring only their emergency lights. If so, perhaps it is time for a change, and maybe the Streeterville residents can push for that change. Since I am retired, it has been awhile since I drove a rig…but I always used discretion on siren use while enroute to the ER. Then again, suburban traffic was always a breeze compared to downtown Chicago traffic.