The Oak Lawn Leaf has an article stating that the Oak Lawn fire chief supports hiring more firefighters:
Oak Lawn’s Fire Chief George Sheets appeared at a recent village budget hearing and told the mayor, manager and trustees that he supports the hiring of 16 additional firefighters in order to eliminate the $2.5 million dollars in overtime spent by the village every year as it has fought court orders regarding its contract with the firefighters union.
Sheets said that the hiring of the 16 firefighters/paramedics would resolve the issue of overtime for at least the next two years. It is the first
time that any member of the administration has discussed the possibility of compromising on the stand developed over seven years ago by former Trustee Tom Phelan and implemented by Village Manager Larry Deetjen.Sheets’ statement mimics the position outlined by [some trustees] who have noted that the administration continues to wage legal battles that it has already lost on the issue of minimum manning.
Deetjen, [the mayor and other trustees] have continued to attack the minimum manning provision in the contract instituted under the late Mayor Ernie Kolb. Those legal battles have proven to be futile with the administration’s efforts to reduce the number of firefighters being denied each time.
Under Village Manager Larry Deetjen’s recommendation and the village board’s support, the village has allowed the firefighter employees to be reduced from 100 to 72 over the years. The firefighters have supported keeping the “minimum manning contract language” the same while the village agreed with the daily shift of 21 employees, it sought to add language stating that would have allowed the village to staff only three firefighters to an engine if staffing fell below 21 daily employees, “for any reason”.
The language was rejected by the union, which has battled over the issue of minimum manning and had to file an unfair labor practice. The Illinois Labor Relations Board ruled against the village and that decision was upheld by the Illinois Appellate Court in 2011.
The firemen have complained previously that the village is wasting millions of dollars in overtime pay as a result of its failure to hire new firefighters. Mayor Sandra Bury has countered arguing that the minimum manning provision agreed to through the collective bargaining process was devastating to the village.
Trustee Robert Streit (Dist. 3) has previously denounced Mayor Sandra Bury’s attacks on the firefighters noting that the village was told its
position was wrong in 2011 and chose to continue to fight the issue, making it virtually impossible to negotiate any issues with the firefighters
union. While Streit has claimed that he can’t support a position that the courts have consistently ruled against, other Trustees, such as Terry
Vorderer and Mike Carberry have made comments supporting the fight over minimum manning despite the court rulings.At the budget meeting, no elected officials indicated whether they would support Chief Sheets’ recommendation.
thanks Dan
#1 by Jim on December 9, 2014 - 2:57 PM
Why not just combine the two departments. This would allow for better protection for both towns. The biggest obstacle is usually the Chiefs. However is this case, it won’t be since he is Chief of both.
#2 by Rob on December 9, 2014 - 12:49 PM
Did Chicago Ridge buy a Quint yet?
#3 by Jim on December 9, 2014 - 2:40 PM
Well tower 6504 technically can be a quint since it does have a pump and carries water. But 6513 is their main front line fire suppression apparatus.
#4 by DaveyB on December 9, 2014 - 11:32 AM
Mike, his “other job” could use some more manpower, too. Mike Mc, I believe 6504 is a quint now.
#5 by Big Moe on December 9, 2014 - 6:47 AM
St. louis and Richmond, VA are both abandoning the quint concept and ordering pumper apparatus. Having to replace millions of dollars of quints every 15 years is just too expensive. Every rig lugging anaerial around to put up once or twice a year doesn’t make sense.
#6 by mike mc on December 8, 2014 - 7:46 PM
Thanks for the insight MABAS 21. Had no idea things had gotten that bad.
I still have to wonder if that two man squad is the wisest and best use of the staffing. I know it is there to augment the ambos, but they seem to send Engines 1 and 2 on serious EMS incidents anyway. Sometimes the dispatchers send Qunit 3wiith Med 3 instead of the squad and the duty chief gets on the radio and over rules them.
I miss the old squad. It was something special and unique. An actual fully squad staffed in the suburbs. I guess they got tired of having it respond to fires outside the city limits.
When Chicago Ridge gets their quint, there will be two quints responding on many still alarms. A little bit like St. Louis.
#7 by Jim on December 9, 2014 - 2:20 AM
Well the squad does go with the quint and Med 3/ E2 MED2 on all full arrest responses on either Manor Cares. East station 3 goes and west 2 goes . I guess that’s some what good augmentation to have an additional 2 guys on a scene
#8 by MABAS 21 on December 8, 2014 - 12:36 PM
Mike mc: That would be awesome for Oak Lawn to have a real fully manned squad again or a fully manned truck and separate fully manned engine out of station 3, but unfortunately this would be a bandaid for the OT issue. With their current manning levels, this would provide enough bodies to staff their minimum for what they run considering OT is caused by furloughs, Kelly Days and sick time. Oak Lawn would have to hire atleast an additional 12 above the 16 to fully staff a real squad or an additional engine out of station 3.
#9 by Jim on December 9, 2014 - 2:24 AM
Well the EP truck 44 will respond auto aid on all STILL responses on the east side of town and Burbank or Chicago Ridge on all west side Stills . I don’t think there’s much of a need for OL to run a dedicated truck considering 3 surrounding communities all have one .
#10 by mike mc on December 8, 2014 - 9:20 AM
Court decissions have upheld the staffing in the contract. They are out of options. I am sure he speaks for the mayor or else he would be silent.
Maybe they will put a real squad in service now or convert the quint to a truck and place another engine in service.
#11 by MABAS 21 on December 8, 2014 - 6:33 AM
What is his ulterior motive to suddenly change his mind on hiring manpower when this entire time he’s been adamatly against it and progressively continued to downsize the department? Something smells fishy here!
#12 by Mike on December 7, 2014 - 10:04 PM
Sounds like George is off his meds or confused between oak lawn and his other job.