This from Dave Weaver:
12/16/12 CHICAGO, IL: Still & Box Alarm w/ Injured FF and Child / EMS Plan 1The St. Stephens Terrace Apartments 2334 W. Van Buren St.Recording with Fireground by Radioman911.com
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This from Dave Weaver:
12/13/2012 Chicago Chimney Fall Technical Rescue
Dispatch & Fireground Radio Traffic (First use of CFD Ops 8)Part 1 http://www.justin.tv/radioman911/b/347868841
Part 2 http://www.justin.tv/radioman911/b/347864210
Part 3 http://www.justin.tv/radioman911/b/347863757
Part 4 http://www.justin.tv/radioman911/b/347863404
Part 5 http://www.justin.tv/radioman911/b/347863046
Part 6 http://www.justin.tv/radioman911/b/347862753
Part 7 http://www.justin.tv/radioman911/b/347861521
Part 8 http://www.justin.tv/radioman911/b/347861197
This from Dave Weaver:
Chicago FD UHF Radio Zone Channel Names/Assignments
The numbers in parenthesis (1-16) are the channel numbers now in use by the Chicago FD Fire and EMS crews. Each of their radios are programmed with over 20 Zones, most carrying duplicate channels with numbering that may be different. These are the 2 primary Zones in use by Chicago Fire and EMS.
Zone (FD):
(1) FIREMAIN: Used by FS&R companies i
n the North jurisdiction for communications with the OEMC.(2) FIREENGL: Used by FS&R companies in the South jurisdiction for communications with the OEMC.(3) ADMIN: For communications between FS&R companies and ambulances. Used as alternate Fireground channel if a MAYDAY is requested.
(4)FIREGRND: For FS&R communications at the scene of an incident.
(5) FIRE CMD: Used by Chief Officers to coordinate activities at the scene of an extra alarm or other large-scale incident.
(6) EMS CMD: Used as the EMS tactical channel during EMS Plan incidents.
(7) EMS OPS: Under the direction of the ranking EMS Command Chief, EMS companies shall utilize the EMS OPS channel for communications when operating at a high-rise fire. May be designated by the EMS Command Chief as a EMS tactical
channel at a large incident.(8) OPS 8: May be designated by the Incident Commander as a tactical channel at a large incident (Search and rescue, support, alternate EMS tactical channel, etc.). Used as an alternate Fireground channel at a second incident, if a MAYDAY is requested at an incident in close proximity.
(9) OPS 9: May be designated by the Incident Commander as a tactical channel at a large incident (Search and rescue, support, alternate EMS tactical channel, etc.). For FS&R communications at the scene of a second incident if an incident in close proximity is already using FIREGRND.
(10) OPS 10: May be designated by the Incident Commander as a tactical channel at a large incident (Search and rescue, support, , alternate EMS tactical channel, etc.). Used by Chief Officers to coordinate activities at the scene of a second extra alarm or large-scale incident if another extra alarm or large-scale incident is already using FIRE CMD.
(11) CTA FIRE: Used by Department units/members working on the scene of an incident within the Chicago Transit Authority (CTA) tunnel/subway.
(12) UMETRO 3: Interoperable channel to communicate with other city/county agencies. With permission from the Incident Commander, can be used as a backup channel for CTA to FS&R communication at the scene of a CTA subway incident.
(13) CW FIRE: Alternate dispatch channel used by the OEMC during high-volume periods.
(14) LAKEFRNT: Used to communicate with Chicago Park District lifeguards on the beaches.
(15) FIREENGL: Used by FS&R companies in the South jurisdiction for communications with the OEMC.
(16) FIREMAIN: Used by FS&R companies in the North jurisdiction for communications with the OEMC.
Zone (EMS):
(1) EMS MAIN: Used by EMS companies in the North jurisdiction for communications with the OEMC.
(2) EMS ENGL: Used by EMS companies in the South jurisdiction for communications with the OEMC.
(3) ADMIN: For communications between FS&R companies and ambulances. Used as alternate Fireground channel if a MAYDAY is requested.
(4) FIREGRND: For FS&R communications at the scene of an incident.
(5) FIRE CMD: Used by Chief Officers to coordinate activities at the scene of an extra alarm or other large-scale incident.
(6) EMS CMD: Used as the EMS tactical channel during EMS Plan incidents.
(7) EMS OPS: Under the direction of the ranking EMS Command Chief, EMS companies shall utilize the EMS OPS channel for communications when operating at a high-rise fire. May be designated by the EMS Command Chief as a EMS tactical
channel at a large incident.(8) OPS 8: May be designated by the Incident Commander as a tactical channel at a large incident (Search and rescue, support, alternate EMS tactical channel, etc.). Used as an alternate Fireground channel at a second incident, if a MAYDAY is requested at an incident in close proximity.
(9) OPS 9: May be designated by the Incident Commander as a tactical channel at a large incident (Search and rescue, support, alternate EMS tactical channel, etc.). For FS&R communications at the scene of a second incident if an incident in close proximity is already using FIREGRND.
(10) OPS 10: May be designated by the Incident Commander as a tactical channel at a large incident (Search and rescue, support, alternate EMS tactical channel, etc.). Used by Chief Officers to coordinate activities at the scene of a second extra alarm or large-scale incident if another extra alarm or large-scale incident is already using FIRE CMD.
(11) CTA FIRE: Used by Department units/members working on the scene of an incident within the Chicago Transit Authority (CTA) tunnel/subway.
(12) CITY W5: Used by Chicago Police as a Special Events Channel monitored by OEMC.
(13) CW FIRE: Alternate dispatch channel used by the OEMC during high-volume periods.
(14) LAKEFRNT: Used to communicate with Chicago Park District lifeguards on the beaches.
(15) FIRE ENGL: Used by FS&R companies in the South jurisdiction for communications with the OEMC.
(16) FIRE MAIN: Used by FS&R companies in the North jurisdiction for communications with the OEMC.
This from Dave Weaver:
Chicago FD Transition From VHF Analog Radio System KSC711 To UHF Digital Radio System WPSG985 11/18/12 0800 Hours Recording
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http://www.justin.tv/radioman911/videos?kind=highlightsDave Weaver
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The following is the third of a 3-part series from Dave Weaver, organizer of the Chicagoland Emergency Vehicle Show www.EmergencyVehicleShow.com
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Details about the Engine 17 rig developments are being discussed on the Chicagoland Emergency Vehicle Show Facebook page. Interested potential buyers can send a private message to Facebook.com/ChicagolandEmergencyVehicleShow or to the comments section of this post.
CFD Engine 69 with numbering for both Backdraft Engines 17 and 51. Tom McCarthy photo
Where they went…
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80-287/D-372 E126 – rehabbed to E122 – Crushed in Blue Island in 1994
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80-288/D-373 E73 – to E103 4/2/81 – (not rehabbed) – Crushed at Cicero Iron in 1984
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80-289/D-374 E8 – rehabbed to E17/51/69 – Sold to Erickson Trucks-n-Parts 8/28/96
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80-290/D-375 E106 – rehabbed to E113 – Sold to Erickson Trucks-n-Parts 9/4/96
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80-291/D-376 E22 – rehabbed to E46 – Sold to Erickson Trucks-n-Parts 9/9/96 (crushed)
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80-292/D-377 E113 – this rig then saw a lot of action as a Shop’s spare at T61, O’Hare, E34, E19, E109, and E72 – rehabbed to E14 – Sold to Erickson Trucks-n-Parts 8/29/96
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80-293/D-378 E49 – rehabbed to E34 – Sold to a private party – Sold to PA FD
Engine 17 on 4-4-2004.
E17’s current condition…
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The owner estimates that 75% of the rig is there with 20% of the parts needing to be purchased and 5% of the parts needing fabrication.
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It has a complete Cummins NTF 365 Turbo-Diesel (365hp @ 2300 rpm).
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It is missing an Allison HT70 6-speed overdrive transmission.
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It is missing $1,100 worth of copper radiator cores – originally Mesabi radiator of MN
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It has a Hale Q-2 2,000-GPM pump that is non-functional, but comes with a replacement PTO gear box, some pump valves and pump gauges stripped from E14 that can be rebuilt by SPAN gauges in WI with period correct backings for $30/ea. and a new pump gasket set from Hale.
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It has a 500-gallon water tank and a 140-gallon foam tank that was added during the refurb.
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It has a 50-gallon diesel tank.
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It is 35′ long with a 178” wheelbase.
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The original grille was stripped from the rig but replaced by a top-notch reproduction.
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It has its’ original deck gun.
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It needs diamond plate and steel work but comes with the refurb blueprints from E-ONE.
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It has original Imron paint but could be repainted with a close matching 68-69 Dodge red.
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It includes 500 feet of 5-inch LDH.
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It includes functional lights, sirens, horns, and a period correct Motorola radio.
Engine 17 photographed 9-15-2012.
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The following is the second of a 3-part series from Dave Weaver, organizer of the Chicagoland Emergency Vehicle Show www.EmergencyVehicleShow.com
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In 1990, X-Engine 8 (D-374) along with its sister rig X-Engine 106 (D-375), were part of the 2nd set of rigs sent to be rehabbed. They were the last two rigs to come back in June of 1990. D-374 and D-375 were both leased to the production company that created the movie Backdraft. D-374 was marked as Engine 17 from 7/90-2/91 and as Engine 51 from 10/90-2/91 (the rig whose hose bed saw “action” inside Engine 8’s house). During filming, the Engine 17 interior shots and the majority of the exterior shots were done using X-Engine 8. X-Engine 106 was also marked as Engine 17 during certain scenes. A way to tell the difference is that Engine 8’s interior had diamond plate and was painted gloss black, while Engine 106 had a flat black interior with no diamond plate. Another difference is that X-Engine 106’s siren speaker was mounted higher up in front of the windshield glass.
The cab interior.
When filming was completed, D-374 was assigned to Engine 69 at 4017 N. Tripp Ave. Engine 69 was responsible for pumping out the basement of City Hall during the Great Flood of 1992. It was part of Chicago’s short-lived super-pumper program, which carried four hard suction lines and 1000′ of 5″ LDH. Its’ 140-gallon foam tank was installed with expressway responses in mind. Engine 69 was taken out of service on 6/13/95. Engine 69’s transmission/PTO box was removed in order to keep Engine 34 in service after they blew out their gears while driving. On 8/28/96, Engine 69 was sold at auction and purchased by Erickson Trucks-n-Parts. It was first shipped to their yard in Sturtevant, WI and it eventually arrived in their Jackson, MN bone yard in 1997. It was discovered there by its current owner in 1999. He eventually purchased it in 2003 and began its restoration.
Backdraft Engine 17 on the day it was purchased.
After filming, X-Engine 106 (D-375) was assigned to Engine 113. It also eventually was sold at auction to Erickson Trucks-n-Parts and made its way to the Jackson, MN bone yard to sit alongside Engine 69. Engine 113 is currently in the hands of a friend of Engine 69’s current owner, but it is in very rough shape and might possibly end up as a parts rig for the Engine 17 project. Engine 14 (X-E113) also ended up in Jackson, MN. It was completely stripped of salvageable parts, had its cab chopped off, and then shredded.
December 20, 2003.
Engine 34 (X-Engine 49), which never saw time in Backdraft, was made into an Engine 17 clone before being sold in 1999 or 2000 to the East Norwegian Twp. PA FD where, until recently, it had been incorrectly touted as authentic. That rig was spotted for sale online stripped of it markings a couple of years ago and its current whereabouts are unknown.
Rear jump seat behind the officer.
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The following is the first of a 3-part series from Dave Weaver, organizer of the Chicagoland Emergency Vehicle Show www.EmergencyVehicleShow.com
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Chicago Fire Department Engine 17 on the set of the movie Backdraft. (X-Engine 69).
Engine 17 from the movie ‘Backdraft’ is for sale. A private collector in Minnesota has decided to let his project go for $6,000 with the condition that it receives a Chicago homecoming in the hands of the individual or group that is most capable of completing the restoration, and willing to make the rig available for parades and shows such as the Chicago Fire Academy Muster and the Chicagoland Emergency Vehicle Show. As of 9/19, there are several potential buyers who have offered to take on the project, but nothing is finalized yet.
During the course of researching the history of this rig I have put together some notes…
Chicago purchased seven, 1970 Ward LaFrance engines on the P80 Ambassador chassis. These carried WLF VIN#s 80-287 to 80-293. They were shipped from Elmira Heights, NY on 6/30/70, and arrived at the CFD shops on 7/2/70 to begin prepping for assignment.
Steve Redick photo
The engine with VIN# 80-289 was given CFD shop #D-374. It was originally marked as Engine 103 and delivered for service on 12/8/70, but the doorway was too narrow for the massive engine to pass through it without folding back the mirrors. It was reassigned to Engine 8 the next day at 212 W. Cermak Rd. in Chinatown, where it served until 1982. It went to the CFD Shops for rehabbing from 9/2/80 until Feb 1981. In 1982, D-374 became a Shop’s spare.
In 1989, the CFD sent the first set of 1970 WLFs to be rehabbed. They were sent to Able Fire Equipment Co., an Emergency-One dealer, in Frankfort. (Able later became Mid-America Truck in Elmhurst) The front of the engines received a Ranger cab manufactured in Rhode Island (now out of business). The back half was a classic E-ONE job.
CFD Engine 69 after the rehab in 1995.
Final installment of photos from Dave Weaver on Engine 77’s last day:
- Final words before going out of service
- Officially putting the company out of service
- A last look at the house
- City crew boarding up the glass
- Cameo appearance of the photographer
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More from Dave Weaver of Engine 77’s last day.
- The house on the last morning
- the bench outside
- The engine and the house
- The last duty company
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Not to be outdone … this next series is from Dave Weaver who adds:
Well heck, I figured if you’ve gone this far down Engine 77 memory lane I would also share the photos that I took on their last day…
- Thunderbolt Siren box
- bathroom
- Company helmet shield
- Local 2 patch
- unit on special duty
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