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Fire Muster and Flea Market in Chicago (more)

This from Steve Redick:

Had a great day Saturday attending the annual Fire Buffs of Illinois/ 5-11 Club muster. Attendance seemed down this year and the amount of rigs seemed very low compared to previous years but nonetheless it was a great and fun day. Here is a sampling of some of the “hardware” I was able to see. Great to see the Skokie/Engine 87 Club Mack again this year after a lengthy absence. All the images and video can be seen on my site

Steve

vintage B-Model Mack fire engine

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vintage 1969 Snorkel from Palatine IL

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restored 1928 Ahrens Fox fire engine

Steve Redick photo

restored NAS Glenview fire engine

Steve Redick photo

Chicago FD Engine 17 from Backdraft

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restored 1928 Ahrens Fox fire engine

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restored 1928 Ahrens Fox fire engine

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restored 1928 Ahrens Fox fire engine

Steve Redick photo

vintage B-Model Mack fire engine

Steve Redick photo

restored NAS Glenview fire engine

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Stone Park FD Engine 21

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Chicago FD Squad 1A

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Chicago FD Squad 1

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5-ll Club Support Service Canteen

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Fire Muster and Flea Market in Chicago (more)

some highlights from the 2017 5-11 Club and Fire Buffs of Illinois Fire Muster and Flea Market in Chicago

Chicago FD Training Division engine

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parade of fire engines

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Chicago FD Engine 17 from the movie Backdraft

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vintage GMC fire engine from the Naval Air Station Glenview

Larry Shapiro photo

restored Ford Falcon fire chief car

Larry Shapiro photo

1928 Ahrens Fox fire engine in Chicago

Larry Shapiro photo

vintage 1969 Seagrave 85' Snorkel on display

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vintage Americal laFrance fire engine from Hillside IL

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vintage B-Model Mack fire engine

Larry Shapiro photo

Stone Park FD Engine 21

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Chicago FD Squad 1 Rosenbauer America ACP-55

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antique Ahrens Fox fire engine supplies Chicago FD Squad 1

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1928 Ahrens Fox fire engine

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fire buffs photographing a fire engine

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vintage fire engines flowing water in Chicago

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Chicago FD Engine 17 from the movie Backdraft

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vintage 1969 Seagrave 85' Snorkel on display

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vintage fire trucks flowing water

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young boy on fire engine wearing a helmet

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vintage 1969 Seagrave 85' Snorkel on display flowing water

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vintage 1969 Seagrave 85' Snorkel on display

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MABAS 7 Swap Meet

some photos from today’s MABAS 7 Swap Meet

Peotone FPD pumper tanker

Josh Boyajian photo

Chicago FD Engine 17 from the movie Backdraft

Josh Boyajian photo

vintage Pirsch fire engine

Steve Redick photo

former Braidwood heavy rescue squad

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Peotone FD Seagrave Snorkel

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2015 Chicagoland Emergency Vehicle Show

This from Asher Heimermann :

The 18th annual Chicagoland Emergency Vehicle Show was held in Downtown Aurora this weekend.

On Friday evening, the Lights and Sirens Procession was expanded to a 13 mile-long route, traveling through the communities of North Aurora, Aurora, and Montgomery. Afterwards, many of the vehicles in the procession were on display at the Aurora Regional Fire Museum.

On Saturday, many current and vintage emergency vehicles were on display throughout four parking lots near the museum. The Aurora Fire Department held two extrication demonstrations, the Aurora Police Special Response Team showed their tactical entry of a mobile office trailer and LIFESTAR made an appearance.

fire department extrication demonstration

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Vintage Chicago FD Dodge Monaco

Asher Heimermann photo

antique Chicago FD Cadillac ambulance

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This from Steve Redick:

Had a great time at the show. Thighlight for me was to finally see the Ambo 8 replica and the Naperville Fox. Here is an assortment of images and they can all be seen here:

Steve

classic vintage Chicago PD Ford sedan

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restores American LaFrance Century fire engine

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Backdraft Chicago FD Ward LaFrance fire engine

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classic antique Maxim fire engine

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antique Chicago FD Cadillac ambulance

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classic antique American LaFrance fire engine

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antique Ahrens Fox fire engine

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MABAS 7 Swap Meet

This from Steve Redick:

I finally got a chance to take this in. It was very nice, much bigger than I expected. Rig shots were very hard to come by but got some cool stuff. The engine lettered for Rockdale does not belong to them from what I understand. I was happy to finally get to see the Peotone Snorkel.

Steve

Sutphen fire engine

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Snorkel fire truck

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old fire eninge

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fire engine

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fire engine

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mini pumper fire engine

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fire engine from the movie Backdraft

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Pierce heavy rescue squad

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Chicago Fire Muster and Swap Meet (more)

This from Niko Stefani:

Here is are some of the photos I took at the 2014 Chicago Fire Muster and Swap Meet held at Quinn Fire Academy in Chicago. I had a blast and I could tell many other people did as well! Here is a link to see the rest of my photos. https://www.flickr.com/photos/106860196@N07/

List of photos:
1. Squad Co. 1A
2. Deputy District Chief 2-2-1 (new buggy)
3 Engine Co. 60 (new Spartan)
4. Engine Co. 5 (new Spartan)
5. Photo of Quinn Fire Academy
6. New training division truck
Chicago FD Snorkel Squad 1A

Niko Stefani photo

Chicago FD Ford Explorer

Niko Stefani photo

Chicago FD Engine 60 Spartan

Niko Stefani photo

Chicago FD Engine 5 Spartan

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Chicago FD Quinn Fire Academy

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CFD FD training division unit

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Chicago Fire Engine Rally and Swap Meet

Images and video from the 2014 Chicago Fire Engine Rally and Swap Meet sponsored by 5-11 Club of Chicago and the Fire Buffs of Illinois.

fire trucks on display

Larry Shapiro photo

Ward LaFrance fire engine from Backdraft

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Pirsch tractor-drawn aerial

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Chicago medical ambulance bus

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Chicago medical ambulance bus

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young boy helps with fire engine

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antique American laFrance fire engine

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antique fire departmetn squad truck

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1923 Ahrens Fox fire engine

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1923 Ahrens Fox fire engine

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1923 Ahrens Fox fire engine

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antique American laFrance fire engine

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Chicago medical ambulance bus

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American LaFrance fire engine

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antique fire engine

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American LaFrance fire engine

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Ward LaFrance fire engine from Backdraft

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antique fire chief car

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Pirsch Tractor-drawn aerial

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more images are at shapirophotography.net

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Chicago Ward LaFrance/Ranger/EONE (part 3)

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The following is the third of a 3-part series from Dave Weaver, organizer of the Chicagoland Emergency Vehicle Show  www.EmergencyVehicleShow.com

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Details about the Engine 17 rig developments are being discussed on the Chicagoland Emergency Vehicle Show Facebook page. Interested potential buyers can send a private message to Facebook.com/ChicagolandEmergencyVehicleShow or to the comments section of this post.
Chicago Fire Department engine from the movie Backdraft

CFD Engine 69 with numbering for both Backdraft Engines 17 and 51. Tom McCarthy photo

Where they went…
  • 80-287/D-372 E126 – rehabbed to E122 – Crushed in Blue Island in 1994
  • 80-288/D-373 E73 – to E103 4/2/81 – (not rehabbed) – Crushed at Cicero Iron in 1984
  • 80-289/D-374 E8 – rehabbed to E17/51/69 – Sold to Erickson Trucks-n-Parts 8/28/96
  • 80-290/D-375 E106 – rehabbed to E113 – Sold to Erickson Trucks-n-Parts 9/4/96
  • 80-291/D-376 E22 – rehabbed to E46 – Sold to Erickson Trucks-n-Parts 9/9/96 (crushed)
  • 80-292/D-377 E113 – this rig then saw a lot of action as a Shop’s spare at T61, O’Hare, E34, E19, E109, and E72 – rehabbed to E14 – Sold to Erickson Trucks-n-Parts 8/29/96
  • 80-293/D-378 E49 – rehabbed to E34 – Sold to a private party – Sold to PA FD
Chicago FD engine used in the movie Backdraft

Engine 17 on 4-4-2004.

E17’s current condition…
  • The owner estimates that 75% of the rig is there with 20% of the parts needing to be purchased and 5% of the parts needing fabrication.
  • It has a complete Cummins NTF 365 Turbo-Diesel (365hp @ 2300 rpm).
  • It is missing an Allison HT70 6-speed overdrive transmission.
  • It is missing $1,100 worth of copper radiator cores – originally Mesabi radiator of MN
  • It has a Hale Q-2 2,000-GPM pump that is non-functional, but comes with a replacement PTO gear box, some pump valves and pump gauges stripped from E14 that can be rebuilt by SPAN gauges in WI with period correct backings for $30/ea. and a new pump gasket set from Hale.
  • It has a 500-gallon water tank and a 140-gallon foam tank that was added during the refurb.
  • It has a 50-gallon diesel tank.
  • It is 35′ long with a 178” wheelbase.
  • The original grille was stripped from the rig but replaced by a top-notch reproduction.
  • It has its’ original deck gun.
  • It needs diamond plate and steel work but comes with the refurb blueprints from E-ONE.
  • It has original Imron paint but could be repainted with a close matching 68-69 Dodge red.
  • It includes 500 feet of 5-inch LDH.
  • It includes functional lights, sirens, horns, and a period correct Motorola radio.
    Chicago FD engine from the movie Backdraft

    Engine 17 photographed 9-15-2012.

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Chicago Ward LaFrance/Ranger/EONE (part 2)

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The following is the second of a 3-part series from Dave Weaver, organizer of the Chicagoland Emergency Vehicle Show  www.EmergencyVehicleShow.com

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In 1990, X-Engine 8 (D-374) along with its sister rig X-Engine 106 (D-375), were part of the 2nd set of rigs sent to be rehabbed. They were the last two rigs to come back in June of 1990. D-374 and D-375 were both leased to the production company that created the movie Backdraft. D-374 was marked as Engine 17 from 7/90-2/91 and as Engine 51 from 10/90-2/91 (the rig whose hose bed saw “action” inside Engine 8’s house). During filming, the Engine 17 interior shots and the majority of the exterior shots were done using X-Engine 8. X-Engine 106 was also marked as Engine 17 during certain scenes. A way to tell the difference is that Engine 8’s interior had diamond plate and was painted gloss black, while Engine 106 had a flat black interior with no diamond plate. Another difference is that X-Engine 106’s siren speaker was mounted higher up in front of the windshield glass.
CFD engine from the movide Backdraft

The cab interior.

When filming was completed, D-374 was assigned to Engine 69 at 4017 N. Tripp Ave. Engine 69 was responsible for pumping out the basement of City Hall during the Great Flood of 1992.  It was part of Chicago’s short-lived super-pumper program, which carried four hard suction lines and 1000′ of 5″ LDH. Its’ 140-gallon foam tank was installed with expressway responses in mind. Engine 69 was taken out of service on 6/13/95. Engine 69’s transmission/PTO box was removed in order to keep Engine 34 in service after they blew out their gears while driving. On 8/28/96, Engine 69 was sold at auction and purchased by Erickson Trucks-n-Parts.  It was first shipped to their yard in Sturtevant, WI and it eventually arrived in their Jackson, MN bone yard in 1997. It was discovered there by its current owner in 1999. He eventually purchased it in 2003 and began its restoration.
CFD Engine from the movie Backdraft

Backdraft Engine 17 on the day it was purchased.

After filming, X-Engine 106 (D-375) was assigned to Engine 113. It also eventually was sold at auction to Erickson Trucks-n-Parts and made its way to the Jackson, MN bone yard to sit alongside Engine 69. Engine 113 is currently in the hands of a friend of Engine 69’s current owner, but it is in very rough shape and might possibly end up as a parts rig for the Engine 17 project. Engine 14 (X-E113) also ended up in Jackson, MN. It was completely stripped of salvageable parts, had its cab chopped off, and then shredded.
CFD engine from the movie Backdraft

December 20, 2003.

Engine 34 (X-Engine 49), which never saw time in Backdraft, was made into an Engine 17 clone before being sold in 1999 or 2000 to the East Norwegian Twp. PA FD where, until recently, it had been incorrectly touted as authentic. That rig was spotted for sale online stripped of it markings a couple of years ago and its current whereabouts are unknown.
CFD engine from the movie Backdraft.

Rear jump seat behind the officer.

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Chicago Ward LaFrance/Ranger/EONE (part 1)

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The following is the first of a 3-part series from Dave Weaver, organizer of the Chicagoland Emergency Vehicle Show  www.EmergencyVehicleShow.com

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Chicago Fire Department Engine 17 on the set of the movie Backdraft

Chicago Fire Department Engine 17 on the set of the movie Backdraft. (X-Engine 69).

Engine 17 from the movie ‘Backdraft’ is for sale. A private collector in Minnesota has decided to let his project go for $6,000 with the condition that it receives a Chicago homecoming in the hands of the individual or group that is most capable of completing the restoration, and willing to make the rig available for parades and shows such as the Chicago Fire Academy Muster and the Chicagoland Emergency Vehicle Show. As of 9/19, there are several potential buyers who have offered to take on the project, but nothing is finalized yet.
 During the course of researching the history of this rig I have put together some notes…
Chicago purchased seven, 1970 Ward LaFrance engines on the P80 Ambassador chassis. These carried WLF VIN#s 80-287 to 80-293. They were shipped from Elmira Heights, NY on 6/30/70, and arrived at the CFD shops on 7/2/70 to begin prepping for assignment.
1970 Ward LaFrance Ambassador pumper assigned to Chicago Fire Department Engine 8

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 The engine with VIN# 80-289 was given CFD shop #D-374. It was originally marked as Engine 103 and delivered for service on 12/8/70, but the doorway was too narrow for the massive engine to pass through it without folding back the mirrors. It was reassigned to Engine 8 the next day at 212 W. Cermak Rd. in Chinatown, where it served until 1982.  It went to the CFD Shops for rehabbing from 9/2/80 until Feb 1981. In 1982, D-374 became a Shop’s spare.
 In 1989, the CFD sent the first set of 1970 WLFs to be rehabbed. They were sent to Able Fire Equipment Co., an Emergency-One dealer, in Frankfort. (Able later became Mid-America Truck in Elmhurst) The front of the engines received a Ranger cab manufactured in Rhode Island (now out of business). The back half was a classic E-ONE job.
Chicago Fire Department Engine 69

CFD Engine 69 after the rehab in 1995.

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