As seen around … The Roberts Park FPD

This from Martin Nowak:

2009 Seagrave Marauder II 1500/750, purchased in 2021.

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15 Comments

#1 by crabbymilton on October 9, 2023 - 7:08 AM

SEAGRAVE may cost more than a PIERCE, E-ONE or SPARTAN. But even given all of the crapola taking place, you’ll likely get more years out of the likes of SEAGRAVE or SUTPHEN. But as someone accurately stated, if these things are going to be wrecked mostly because of people not paying the slightest attention to emergency vehicles, they may as well not buy a from a more premium builder. Hence the old saying…”See why we can’t have nice things?” Not to take away from PIERCE, SPARTAN, and E-ONE. SEAGRAVE has made some inroads with many departments after problems with the rust and suspension problems. Hopefully PIERCE has fixed this but once jerked around one too many times, many departments might not ever come back.
#2 by rich s. on October 8, 2023 - 6:57 PM

Martin, The city is NOT going to order anything but E-One fire apparatus, 2FM (FLEET) wants one manufacturer on the street. They want the same parts and problems to fix the fleet. the days of a mix mosh fleet are past and they are trying to get everything in line. However The Department of Finance is not cutting funds loose to make the amount of purchases that we need to replace the fleet in a timely manner. The City of Chicago is a bureaucratic nightmare, nothing is easily attained. We are also having some issues with serious accidents that are destroying the rigs we do have and are running dangerously low on spare rigs. we have NO spare Towers available so if a Tower goes down for any reason they will be in a Truck until their rig is repaired. And we still have spare Engines on the street from 1992 ( and they are dangerous) several spares are not in fully operational order. some don’t have functional gauges on the pump panel, some don’t have functional front intakes or not all discharges are operational. You would be very surprised at the state of the fleet. It’s pretty sad actually.
#3 by danny on October 8, 2023 - 6:55 PM

the time for a big order was 4 years ago…. the fleet is so old and worn out at thins point they will be playing catch up for at least a decade
#4 by Martin on October 8, 2023 - 3:52 PM

Danny makes a good point about the agreement.

At this time, Chicago should start ordering some Spartans as well. They have them in the fleet already and honestly the city needs new apparatus desperately
#5 by DANNY on October 8, 2023 - 2:06 PM

BILL ALSO NOTE THAT THE “CONTRACT” IS NOT REALLY ONE ITS A PURCHASE AGREEMENT FOR UP TO 106 MILLION DOLLARS WHICH CHICAGO HAS YET TO COME CLOSE TO HALF ON THAT AMOUNT, AND HE AGREEMENT WAS FROM JAN 2019 TO JAN 2024 THE EXACT EXP DATE IS JAN 19 2024
#6 by Mike hellmuth on October 8, 2023 - 11:51 AM

Bourbonnais has one also…..
#7 by MABAS 21 on October 8, 2023 - 8:07 AM

Add Coal City, & Hazel Crest to the list.
#8 by Big Moe on October 8, 2023 - 3:37 AM

Don’t forget Lockport and Romeoville as well. And Blue island has one on order.
#9 by Austin on October 7, 2023 - 11:32 PM

Chuck I think that is an uncalled for statement. Bill lamented about there not being many Seagraves, Harry mentioned a lot of the departments that still use them. He was just answering Bills question, correctly at that. No one in the comments other than you are referring to one very specific type of Seagrave. So Harry is not comparing apples to oranges, he’s answering a question. If anything you should have addressed that to Bill. Even then it still doesn’t matter because they were talking about ALL Seagraves.
#10 by Chuck on October 7, 2023 - 7:21 PM

Harry, the City hasn’t had Seagrave pumpers (which was what this post started out about,) since the late 1970’s. Quit mixing apples and oranges.
#11 by Harry on October 7, 2023 - 5:32 PM

Bill I said because of the spare seagraves
#12 by Bill Post on October 7, 2023 - 2:19 PM

Thanks for mentioning those Seagrave Fire Departments Harry. I can’t wait until Northbrook gets their new Seagrave.That will be a big change for them as they have been buying Pierces for a long time now. The thing about Northbrook is that most of their apparatus is still pretty new which includes their Squad 11 which is relatively new and is their first pumper/Squad which replace their Engine 11 and Squad 12 which was a box style Heavy Rescue Squad. Their Engine 10 also is pretty new who gets the new Seagrave their current rig will probably be sent to replace Engine 12. Their Engine 12 is supposedly an on call unit that they assign their “on call fire fire fighters to when they are busy because Engine 12 in normally out of service and both Stations 10 and 11 each have reserve Engines assigned to them as well.
Northbrook Currently has plans for a 4th station and they also have plans to relocate and replace Stations 11 and 12 but first they want to build what will probably be Station 13. I have no idea if when they will build it and if they even have the money but they probably do as they are always buying new apparatus.
A few years ago Skokie almost had become a Seagrave town and that is because they had hired a Fire Chief from Louisville Kentucky which is a long time Seagrave town however their Fire Chief from Louisville didn’t stay in Skokie very long and so they never had a chance to order anything from Seagrave and they are still a loyal Pierce customer.

How is it that Chicago is on your “Seagrave” list what are they ordering from Seagrave? They still have a contract with E/One that is good for another year. While they still have a few Seagrave Spare Trucks from the mid 1990s they are on their way out as they have been spares for a long time. If you want Seagraves you need to go to New York CIty or Washington DC. For a few years New York City had changed brands when it came to Engines and Trucks but they are back to buying from Seagrave.
#13 by Martin on October 7, 2023 - 10:44 AM

There are a few others as well that Harry didn’t list.

Mansfield MA had two of these engines at one point. One was damaged in a fire while the other was replaced and sold to Roberts Park. Mansfield ordered 3 engines in 2019. 2 Eone and 1 pierce. None of the new engines have this extended body style.
#14 by Harry on October 7, 2023 - 7:38 AM

Bill there is quite a few

Waukegan
Winthrop harbor
Beach pk
Alsip
Crestwood
Roberts pk
Chicago
Soon to be west Chicago
Sonny to be Northbrook
Soon to be Cicero
St Charles
Streamwood
#15 by Bill Post on October 7, 2023 - 6:18 AM

That is really a sharp looking rig and it also seems to have a longer body on it then many Engines. The fact that it’s a Seagrave Engine really makes it stand out as you don’t see too many Seagraves around the Chicago area anymore. Waukegan Illinois is one of the few exceptions as well.