The next installment in this series about Chicago area fire trucks looks into departments in MABAS Division 3 that over the years have changed over to red fire apparatus. Also highlighted is a department that was always red but at one time had an engine that was a different color.
Deerfield had two Ward LaFrance P80 series engines with the Ambassador cab. Engine 720 was delivered in 1973 with a 1,250-GPM pump and Engine 712 came in 1977. Engine 720 carried 750 gallons of water , Engine 712 carried 1,000 gallons, and both were painted white over lime green.

Deerfield Engine 712 was a 1977 Ward LaFrance P80 with an Ambassador cab. It had a 1,500-GPM pump with 1,000 gallons of water. Larry Shapiro collection
The Glenbrook Fire Protection District (formerly the Glenview Rural Fire Protection District) merged with the Glenview Fire Department in 1992. The original Glenview Rural trucks were red, then sometime after the district name changed the Glenbrook apparatus was transitioned to yellow. Subsequent purchases arrived yellow. The department had three American LaFrance Pioneer Series engines, one of which was a newer Pioneer II model. They also had a small squad and a 1968 Ford/Snorkel. The red 75-foot Snorkel was refurbished in 1986 and came back yellow from Pierce with a new four-door Arrow cab. Later they purchased a newer squad from Hackney and two Pierce Arrow engines.

Glenbrook Engine 144 was a 1976 Pioneer Series from American LaFrance with 750 gallons of water and a 1,250-GPM pump. Larry Shapiro collection
Glenview apparatus has always been red. In 1975, they purchased a pumper-squad from Seagrave with a 300-gallon water tank. Squad 8 came white over lime green. This unit was later repainted red but retained the white roof.

Glenview had this one unit that was not painted red. Pumper-Squad 8 was a 1975 Seagrave P-Series with 300 gallons of water and a 1,500-GPM pump. Larry Shapiro collection
For many years, Northbrook painted their units yellow, having previously been red. They had three engines, a Sutphen tower ladder, two squad units, and utility vehicles that were yellow. They also had a matching yellow stripe on their modular ambulances. The apparatus changed to white over red in 1996 when they received two engines, a squad, and a ladder from Pierce.

Northbrook Engine 58 was a 1975 American LaFrance Pacemaker Series engine with 500 gallons of water and a 1,000-GPM pump. The Pacemaker was a conventional custom fire cab by TCM instead of an American LaFrance custom Century or Pioneer cab. Larry Shapiro collection
The Park Ridge Fire Department ran with white over lime green apparatus for many years. Including this conventional Pirsch engine, they had a Mack CF/Pirsch mid-mount ladder, a custom cab-over Pirsch engine, and two Seagrave WB Series low profile engines that were painted to match. They also had stripes on their modular ambulances that matched the apparatus. All but the mid-mount ladder were later repainted red.

Park Ridge Engine 44 shown here at a fire scene, was a 1958 conventional cab Pirsch with 500 gallons of water and a 1,000-GPM pump. Steve Redick collection
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#1 by Crabby Milton on January 31, 2014 - 8:39 AM
It’s interesting that there are apparatus in just about any color you can imagine. Here in the Milwaukee area, the suburb of West Allis painted their rigs yellow in the mid 1970’s. Wauwatosa followed suit with a sort of yellow. A few other Milwaukee and Waukesha county depts. did the same. But then West Allis ordered a new rig in the early 1990’s red and now all of the rigs are red. Tosa took delivery of a PIERCE QUANTUM. black over red similar to Chicago. http://www.piercemfg.com/en/experience/NewDeliveries/Wauwatosa-Fire-Department-PUC-Pumper.aspx
New Haven, CT. and Denver, CO. apparatus were always white never red as far as I know.
Now they have repainted a couple of the newer rigs. West Allis started it and they were first to go back.
#2 by Phil Stenholm on January 30, 2014 - 11:51 PM
JEFF: Yes.
When George Beattie was appointed Chief of the Evanston Fire Department in 1973, he ordered all apparatus ordered for the Evanston Fire Department during his tenure to be painted “safety yellow”:
1974 Dodge cargo van (F-17)
1974 Howe-International 1000/500 TCP (Engine 23)
1975 Howe-International 1000/500 TCP (Engine 24)
A Howe-Mack 1000/500 TCP (the new Engine 25) that was ordered in 1975 was supposed to be painted yellow, too, but Beattie retired in 1976 before the rig was delivered.
(The WWII-vintage U. S. government-surplus Civil Defense DUKW that was in service with the EFD as “F-7” 1964-74 was also painted yellow, but that wasn’t part of any general plan).
Beattie was replaced as EFD Chief in 1976 by Glen Ayers, the former Chief of the Rock Island F. D. Ayers hated yellow fire trucks, and so he ordered the Mack that was being built to be painted “Rock Island red,” and it was indeed painted that color when it was delivered in December 1976.
Ayers had the two yellow Howe engines repainted red in 1978, but the yellow cargo van formerly used by EFD mechanics was traded-in for a Chevy window van (“incident command vehicle”) in 1979 before it could be repainted.
BTW, the three Howe rigs (E23, E24, and E25) purchased by the EFD in1974-76 had their bodies replaced In 1982-83. The new pumper bodies had a deck gun and a transverse 1-3/4″ hose-tray added above the pump panel (replacing the factory-installed hose-reel “red-line” top mid-ship), enclosed “squad-compartments” installed on the driver’s-side where the old hard-suction drafting hose was stored in the old days, and a hose bed reconfigured to accommodate the large-diameter low-friction supply-hose purchased by the EFD 1977-79.
There are probably some old Bill Friedrich photos on-line that show the yellow paint jobs, as well as the two distinctly different pumper body-types for the Howe rigs.
#3 by Jeff Rudolph on April 30, 2012 - 6:43 PM
Highwood ran an ex Northbrook ALF as a reserve engine and Winnetka ran a Chevy with a utility body as Rescue 28, both where yellow.
#4 by Jeff Rudolph on April 30, 2012 - 6:25 PM
Didn’t Evanston run 1 if not 2 74′ International Howes that where yellow.
#5 by Grumpy grizzly on April 25, 2012 - 3:03 PM
When Western Electric closed their Hawthorne Works in Cicero they donated their mini-pumper to Cicero FD. It was painted yellow and saw service as Engine 4 @ 30th and Laramie.
#6 by Brett on April 25, 2012 - 10:45 AM
I rode that Glenbrook engine as a POC. that was a fire engine and you could hear that thing wind the road!!!
#7 by MARK MITCHELL on April 25, 2012 - 10:28 AM
Deerfield’s E712 actually had a 1000 gallon tank, both as a WLF, and after the Pierce Arrow rehab.