Bill Friedrich has submitted images of some older apparatus that has been assigned to Engine 77 in the past
Engine 77 shown here running with a 1953 FWD (X-Engine 97). This unit had a 1,000-GPM pump and no water. This photo was taken after the ladder rack had been removed. Bill Friedrich collection
Bill notes that:
Obviously a spare, the company saved the shops time by putting their own numbers on the rig. This FWD is the former combination Engine 97 after the ladder rack was removed. Note the apartment building just to the north of the station.
Engine 77 had this 1970 Ward LaFrance engine on a Ford C8000 chassis. It carried 500 gallons of water and had a 1,000-GPM pump. Bill Friedrich photo
#1 by RY on December 6, 2012 - 6:39 PM
Would someone have a photo of Engine 51 and T30’s house on State street? Or where I can find one?
Thanks
#2 by chris on September 24, 2012 - 8:22 PM
who knows with the city up till early 70s? trk 43 was with 110
#3 by Scott on September 24, 2012 - 7:24 PM
In regards to Trk 12, was told the reason it was relocated to Eng 110’s house was to not admit it was a mistake to have taken it out of service from 13’s. Hence, Trk 6 re-organized at Eng 13’s. Anyone have further?
#4 by Bill Post on September 23, 2012 - 1:03 AM
I would like to make a slight correction. Engine 84 and Truck 51 are located about 6 blocks south of Engine 61’s old station and not the other way around.
The irony about 84’s new location is that until 1975, Engine 51 and Truck 30 were located on State street near 60th street (only about a block and half away from Engine 84’s new station).The Chicago Fire Department’s consultant had felt that a fire station at that approximate location wasn’t necessary and that Truck 30 should be relocated to it’s current location and that Engine 61 and 84 should have remained where they were at. The last I had heard is that Engine 84 and Truck 51’s classic old station was still standing near Green and what was 62nd street (in the heart of Englewood).
Since Truck 51 was relocated to it’s new location Truck 20’s runs shot up so that in 2010 they were the busiest Truck in the city. That was largely because Truck 20 was given what had been the southern half of Truck 51’s old still district.
#5 by DMc77 on September 22, 2012 - 12:43 AM
Both Truck 6 and 12 were also created and placed where they were to help augment the number of truck companies to fill out the (then) new still in the high rise policy
#6 by Bill Post on September 21, 2012 - 7:05 PM
Even though it was already answered in a previous thread on Engine 77 (within the last several days), it was closed for two basic reasons. The first reason was because Engine 38 and Truck 48’s new station was opened about a half mile south of Engine 77’s quarters. The new station is on the southeast corner of 16th street and Pulaski. Engine 38 and Truck 48 had been at 2111 S Hamlin, but were relocated about half way in between their old quarters and Engine 77’s house.
The second reason why Engine 77 was taken out of service is because of the need to create a second Hazardous Materials Unit for the south side of Chicago. By taking Engine 77 out of service they were able to create 5-1-2 (Haz Mat 2) which was at Engine 60’s house but has since been relocated to Rescue station 1 (Tower Ladder 63) at O’Hare Field.
In the current contract between the city and the firefighters union (Local 2) the city was supposed to keep the same amount of fire companies that were in service at the time the contract was signed. That meant that if any fire company was taken out of service a new fire company was to be created somewhere else in the city. Since that contract was signed, three fire companies were created to replace three fire companies that were disbanded. When Engine 100 was taken out of service (2 blocks south of Engine 63 and Truck 16’s new quarters) Truck 6 was put back in service at Engine 13 (downtown). When Engine 61 was taken out of service (6 blocks south of Engine 84 and Truck 51’s new house) Truck 12 was put back in service at Engine 110 on the north side. Of course as mentioned 5-1-2 replaced Engine 77.
I hope that clause remains in the new contract that is currently being negotiated between Local 2 and the city as otherwise I’m afraid you might see other companies going out of service (without being replaced by new companies).
#7 by Grumpy grizzly on September 21, 2012 - 5:38 PM
Why was E-77 taken out of service?
#8 by Martin on September 20, 2012 - 10:56 PM
Thank You Phil
#9 by Phil Stenholm on September 20, 2012 - 9:00 PM
This is the FWD when it was Engine 97 (before the ladder-rack was removed): here
#10 by Martin on September 20, 2012 - 2:47 PM
The 1953 FWD looks nice, I wonder how it looked with the Ladder rack. Bill do you have a picture of it as E97? Does anyone know what happened to that apartment building? Are there any plans for the land that the old house and apartment building sat on?