Excerpts from the DailyHerald.com:
The Elgin fire union president says overtime staffing cuts caused a delayed response and gap in water supply to a fire in which a 63-year-man died last month.
David Moncatch died Jan. 21 when heating tape caused a fire at his trailer home on the 400 block of Sadler Avenue. Officials at first said Moncatch died of smoke inhalation, but an autopsy showed he died of a heart attack, International Association of Firefighters Local 439 President Joe Galli said. Moncatch was found in the kitchen, apparently trying to get a fire extinguisher. Two dogs also died.
Fire Chief Dave Schmidt defended the department’s response, saying the first engine arrived two minutes after the call, and 15 firefighters arrived within eight minutes of travel time, the standard set by the National Fire Protection Association. A total of 23 firefighters responded.
At the center of the dispute is how long it took the second engine to arrive and hook up to the hydrant about 150 feet from Moncatch’s home. When the second engine arrived, nearly nine minutes after the initial call, the first engine had run out of water — the first time in recent memory that’s happened, Galli and Schmidt agreed.
The radio recording shows a one-minute gap between firefighters reporting they were out of water and saying water was beginning to pump from the hydrant. Galli said firefighters told him the actual gap was longer. “We are in a business where seconds count,” he said. Firefighters were about to enter the trailer when the water ran out, so they opted to enter after they had water.
The staffing cut enacted Jan. 11 means there are 31 firefighters — two fewer than last year — and a battalion chief on duty at all times across the city’s seven fire stations.
A structure fire calls for three engines, one ladder truck, one ambulance, and more vehicles based on the severity of the fire. The first engine arrived from Station 5 at 804 Villa St. and started fighting the fire. Moncatch’s home is behind the station.
Before the staffing cut, the second engine and ladder truck — if not on another call — would have come from Station 1 at 550 Summit St., two miles away. The staffing cut, however, makes it so crews there jump between the engine or truck. The truck Jan. 21 came from Summit Street, and the second engine came from Station 4 at 599 S. McLean Blvd., nearly four miles away, because the next-closest engine at Station 6 was out on a call.
If the second engine had come from Summit Street, it would have arrived in time to have a continuous water supply, Galli said. “We weren’t able to send the closest engine because of our staffing model. And because of that, we will never know what could have been.”
Firefighting entails juggling the unpredictability of calls, such as the one the engine from Station 6 was on when the fire at Moncatch’s home took place, Schmidt said. “It’s not an exact science, because in any given day, in excess of 50 percent of the time we are running multiple calls,” he said.
Schmidt also pointed out the ladder truck from Summit Street arrived just one minute before the second engine. The second engine that day “was still close enough. It was a respectable response time,” he said.
The cuts are estimated to save $750,000 per year. The union argued the cut would affect the safety of firefighters and residents, and the matter is expected to be decided in arbitration.
thanks Dan
#1 by Eric on February 18, 2018 - 4:14 PM
Full still is 3 engines, 1 truck, 1 amb & BC. On this night the 2nd due engine was following on a EMS run, the new crossmanned eng/trk (which used to be the 2nd due eng) came with a straight stick ladder no pump, so the 3rd and 4th due engines moved up.
#2 by Jim on February 16, 2018 - 2:05 PM
Mike C,
What is the first alarm assignment in Elgin?
#3 by Brian on February 16, 2018 - 1:45 PM
Just throwing out an idea here, with these staffing cuts, would or should Elgin move from tradition aerials to quints?
In this scenario the second arriving company could have then provided that immediate water supply.
#4 by Mike on February 16, 2018 - 9:56 AM
Maybe the engineer was busy helping with the leadout or forcing the door or even searching for the victim that died inside. I don’t recall the paper saying how far the hydrant was from the fire. So maybe it wasn’t only 150’ away.
#5 by jsvens on February 16, 2018 - 8:20 AM
Any engineer worth his salt should be able to get his own hydrant, and should have a positive water supply in under 3 minutes from charging the first line. What else is there to do after the line is charged?
#6 by Jim on February 15, 2018 - 9:28 PM
Mike C. ,
Maybe you can shed some light on the rig placement in Elgin. Why are the two jump truck in the northern stations 1 and 2 and the quint in the southwestern station 7? Wouldn’t it make better sense to move the quint to station 6 as the dedicated truck and the other stations be engine houses? While not ideal by any means it could stop the jump company problem.
#7 by Mike C on February 15, 2018 - 6:13 PM
Hi Jim,
Thank you for your dedication to the fire service! In terms of your comment, I’d like to make a comment. Elgin currently runs 3 men engine crews which is below the NFPA recommendation. While it’s possible that one of those 3 could have tapped into the hydrant while the other 2 attack the fire this would be a difficult task. 150 feet may not sound far but when you have a lot of responsibilities already adding more in this situation makes it difficult. Plain and simple… Elgin Fire got shafted by the city council! The city council has no area of expertise in the fire service except for Rich Dunne. The Elgin Fire is undergoing some trying times. I hope this situation brings light to the citizens and they vote out all those who oppose of the fire department!
#8 by Timothy J. Richards on February 14, 2018 - 9:44 PM
We used to run with 3 on an engine and 1 man ladder or snorkel. If the run man was on an errand that left the Sergeant ( driver ) and Captain. Not many helpers with 5 stations and 1 Snorkel or Ladder. But that all changed after a real bad fire……..
#9 by Mike on February 14, 2018 - 9:24 PM
Thank you for your dedicated engine service. I’m sure they will consider this action now that you have brought it to their attention.
#10 by Jim S on February 14, 2018 - 7:04 PM
Staffing cuts never help. But maybe a change in operations is in order. Ive never been a fan of having to wait for the second engine to arrive to supply the first engine. As a diehard engine guy (now retired) as the first due engine i always got my own water supply. My department primarily did reverse lays but we also practiced back stretching a supply line to a hydrant. If the hydrant was only 150 feet away, the engineer should have been able to hand stretch a supply line.