Found at Fentonfire.com:
1987 Spartan Darley Snorkel 55′ 1500/0 (Q0926)
Really nice 1987 Spartan Snorkel for sale!
6 cylinder Cummins
Allison automatic
Front tires 315/80R22.5 in good condition, rear tires 12R22.5 in good condition
10-man Spartan cab
(2) SCBA seats
No booster tank
Q2 siren
Electronic siren
55-ft Snorkel (will have new certification) Excellent condition,679 Engine Hours
thanks Al
#1 by Brian on November 3, 2017 - 10:58 AM
I heard that one of the major issues with the Frankfort snorkel was the out riggers would drop when driving down the road. I’m sure this was not the only one.
#2 by Bill on November 2, 2017 - 5:04 PM
Sounds like Frankfort just likes to buy new fire apparatus at the expense of the tax payer. That snorkel was a bad investment in the first place.
#3 by Bat 10 on November 2, 2017 - 2:23 PM
We sold the Tower in September to a department Pennsylvania, not sure yet what the Chief wants to do.
#4 by Bill on November 2, 2017 - 12:53 PM
Will Frankfort use the tower again or will they buy a new tower
#5 by Tim Johnson on November 1, 2017 - 8:47 PM
Word is the Frankfort snorkel is being turned back in under the Illinois Lemon Law. All problems. Not sure what specifically.
#6 by Lisbon Seward Resident on October 18, 2017 - 3:54 PM
They also have a Ford all wheel drive Super Duty walk in rescue, complete with extrication tools, light tower, winch, forcible entry tools, ect. They did a very nice job outfitting it. The vehicle was donated, the firefighters then spent countless hours equipping it to the max. Very nice unit for off road extrication due to their all agriculture district.
#7 by Michael M on October 18, 2017 - 1:48 PM
I did go to Lisbon’s facebook page. It looks like they have a tanker, a rear-mount Rescue-Engine and a brush truck.
#8 by Michael M on October 18, 2017 - 1:42 PM
It is sad that the Lisbon-Seaward trustees voted not to accept the donation even with other departments helping out with training costs. What were they thinking?
Anyone know what is wrong with the Frankfurt Snorkel? I am guessing they are running one of the Pierce engines out of that station in the meantime.
#9 by Lisbon Seward Resident on October 18, 2017 - 12:13 PM
After talking to members at their car show , where the snorkel was on display to show the residents, they went into great detail about the need. They cover a large area, all rural, very large homes, multiple equestrian operations, hundreds and hundreds of pole buildings, multiple grain storage facilities, not to mention everything else. Where does it not make sense? Time is of essence when responding to an emergency. Does anyone know what the real reason is the trustees voted not to accept?
#10 by Plattville resident on October 18, 2017 - 11:42 AM
The reason for a snorkel was the long, narrow farm driveways that prevent a 100′ tower from making it up to the residence. There have been several fires where a tower couldn’t setup and sat idling on the road, not in use. The outrigger width on most aerials prevent ever setting up on farm properties then factor in tandem axles and they just don’t work out here. The snorkel was researched along with many other units before deciding on this unit. It was a multi year project.
#11 by rj on October 18, 2017 - 11:16 AM
Michael M might be onto something here. Snorkels are very unique tools in the fire service and really only needed in tight urban areas. I was in a CFO class with the Frankfort chief and he gave some really generic reasons why they bought it with no solid evidence to back up the need for it. The fact that it’s “cool” likely play a bigger part in the decision to purchase it then it should have.
#12 by Plattville resident on October 18, 2017 - 11:12 AM
The unit was purchased from Orland and was going to be donated to LSFPD. Their trustees denied the donation even tho almost everything in Station 2 is from donations already. Every surrounding district offered to pay for maintenance, offered training, and tools, equipment to fill the whole truck. Insurance was going to be paid by the actual volunteers, who get paid nothing to run calls. The trustees are out of touch with the fire service and don’t even allow the members to meet basic requirements set by NFPA and OSFM.
#13 by Lisbon Seward Resident on October 18, 2017 - 10:08 AM
This was a big setback for the firefighters as station 2. A good bunch of volunteers who are just trying to improve service for their fire district. I believe they are one of the last departments in the area that are still unpaid and all volunteer. What a morale booster this could of been.
#14 by Wayne on October 18, 2017 - 8:14 AM
Because that donation has maintenance and training costs that come along with it. It’s a generous move on Orland’s part but if Lisbon-Seward doesn’t have the combination of money and need they might have decided it’s better not to take it.
#15 by Michael M on October 18, 2017 - 1:41 AM
How ironic that Frankfort spent a lot of money to purchase a new Snorkel when they had a tower ladder that was in perfectly good condition, only to have problems with the Snorkel? I believe that someone suggested on this site that the Frankfort Chief purchased the Snorkel just because he is a fire buff and wanted a Snorkel.
#16 by Marty Coyne on October 17, 2017 - 11:07 PM
Why would they vote not to accept a donation?
#17 by Bill on October 17, 2017 - 7:50 PM
I haven’t seen Frankfort snorkel in months
#18 by Erik H on October 17, 2017 - 6:13 PM
Lisbon-Seward fpd trustees voted to not except the donation in August.
#19 by Crabby Milton on October 17, 2017 - 5:04 PM
Something you don’t see everyday and that’s completely solid red rig.
#20 by Brian on October 17, 2017 - 4:51 PM
I thought this was already purchased by the Fire Chief of Lisbon-Seward Fire District and he donated it to the district.
#21 by mike mc on October 17, 2017 - 4:25 PM
Too bad Frankfurt didn’t wait a couple of years. They could have saved some money.
There are some large suburbs with old fashioned alleys and three flats that could use this rig but no one seems to be interested. That is exactly what these small snorkels were designed for 54 years ago.
I always thought Chicago should have offered to buy this rig five or eight years ago and use it to complement G482 as a spare squad A. They certainly would have gotten a lot of use out as well as their money’s worth out of it.
This rig was originally designated Rescue 1 with a FNDY Rescue logo even though it was an obvious copy of a Chicago squad. Strikingly similar to the one piece squads operating in the 1980’s with the exception of the pump.