This from Chris Ranck:
From CARMA Chicago:
http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/ApplicationSearch/applAdminAttachments.jsp?applID=7901896#
Action Performed | Location | Transmitter Address /Area of Operation | Latitude, Longitude |
Add | 1 – Fixed | INT OF RT 25 & I-90 ELGIN, IL COOK County |
42-03-56.0 N, 088-15-39.0 W |
Add | 2 – Fixed | 777 S STATE ST ELGIN, IL KANE County |
42-00-50.0 N, 088-17-07.0 W |
Add | 3 – Fixed | 2355 College Green Drive ELGIN, IL KANE County |
42-00-51.2 N, 088-20-04.8 W |
Add | 4 – Fixed | 599 SHALES PARKWAY ELGIN, IL COOK County |
42-01-34.4 N, 088-14-08.2 W |
Add | 5 – Fixed | 800′ S OF RT 20 4 M N OF RT 72 HAMPSHIRE, IL KANE County |
42-08-50.0 N, 088-30-45.0 W |
Add | 6 – Fixed | IL RT 47 6 MI N OF LILY LAKE PLATO CENTER, IL KANE County |
41-59-22.0 N, 088-28-00.0 W |
Add | 000851.32500000 | 1 | 1 | 1 | FB2 | 1 | 100.000 | 51.300 | ||
Add | 000851.66250000 | 1 | 1 | 2 | FB2 | 1 | 100.000 | 51.300 | ||
Add | 000853.62500000 | 1 | 1 | 3 | FB2 | 1 | 100.000 | 51.300 | ||
Add | 000854.28750000 | 1 | 1 | 4 | FB2 | 1 | 100.000 | 51.300 |
SUPPLEMENTAL INFORMATION REGARDING THE CITY OF ELGIN, IL.
REGION 54 FREQUENCY APPLICATION
Section 1 – Service
The City of Elgin submits this application on behalf of its Police and Fire Departments which will use this system subject to the terms and conditions of the Starcom21
Subscription Agreement. Use of this system will also be made available to other City Agencies.
Section 2 – System Type
This new system will be an 8-site 700/800MHz ASTRO Project 25 Simulcast System with a 9 link Point-to-Point (PTP) microwave backhaul network on the STARCOM21network. It will maintain the Grade of Service required by the STARCOM21 contract at each of its sites, with 16 dB in-building coverage for the City of Elgin Public Safety Agencies dispatched by its Main and Backup Dispatch Centers. The subscribers will use a combination of both mobile and portable radios. The City of Elgin has requested to join STARCOM21 which will combine State frequencies with Elgin frequencies. Upon addition of these frequencies to the STARCOM21 system the City of Elgin will actively use the Starcom21 system for public safety purposes. The State of Illinois STARCOM21 system is a statewide public safety radio system used and governed by public safety entities throughout Illinois and is managed by Motorola Solutions, Inc. Motorola Solutions, Inc. maintains the radio infrastructure of the system and assists with coordination of frequencies into the STARCOM21 system. Motorola Solutions, Inc. does not own licenses on the system.Elgin also has AutoAid and Mutual Aid partners that can come onto the subsystem the
amount of radios which will be included are:
Kane County Office of Emergency Management – 4 Streamwood FD – 30 Streamwood PD – 20 Hoffman Estates FD – 42 Hoffman Estates PD – 30 Bartlett Fire Protection
DIstrict – 38 South Elgin Fire Protection District – 9 Pingree Grove Fire Protection District – 3 Rutland Dundee Fire Protection District – 3 West Dundee FD – 2 East Dundee Fire
Protection District – 2
The future subscribers coming onto the system is projected to be about 125 additional subscribers over the next 5 years. The City of Elgin is requesting that the licenses be granted to enhance the coverage and interoperability with the State of Illinois. This interoperability will provide enhanced public safety operations within this region. Granting these frequency requests will allow the City of Elgin to join the statewide STARCOM21 system, and allows Law Enforcement, Fire, and EMS agencies to significantly improve their public safety
communications capabilities. The system is owned by the vendor; however, the subscriber radios (mobiles and portables) and consoles are owned by the City. The City
of Elgin will license these frequencies in its name for use on the STARCOM21 system.This system uses Motorola’s ASTRO 25 digital platform, an FDMA based technology
that uses the P25 IMBE vocoder. It supports integrated voice and data applications.
Section 3 – Intersystem Interoperability
The new City of Elgin radio system will have the ability to interoperate with existing public safety agencies using 800 MHz and UHF/ VHF/ low band frequencies. The 800 MHz users will be able to communicate with City of Elgin STARCOM21 system users, such as the Illinois State Police, via the five NPSPAC 821 Mutual Aid frequencies. The subscriber units will have the ability to o perate on these channels with analog operation. Interoperability between the City and other agencies on UHF or VHF frequencies can be achieved by having the dispatch operator setup a crosspatch between a talkgroup in the network and the desired analog conventional channel. Interoperability between the existing ISPERN and IREACH frequencies will be accomplished in accordance with the guidelines outlined by each respective Governing Board. The Illinois State Police & Motorola have identified specific STARCOM21 ISPERN and IREACH talkgroups that will allow for interoperability with VHF ISPERN and IREACH users. City of Elgin subscribers will utilize the STARCOM21 system through talkgroups dedicated to their specific agencies. Existing STARCOM21 users will be encouraged to enter into an intergovernmental agreement that will allow for the sharing of specified talkgroups to provide for interoperability with other county, state and federal government users. Other non-City public safety & local government agencies that subscribe to the STARCOM21 system will be able to interoperate directly with City users.
Section 4 – Channel Loading Factors
These frequencies will be used by 738 units initially. Of these, 409 will be distributed to the Police Department and 329 to the Fire Department. Since trunking technology
shares resources among all users, the radio and microwave frequencies the City of Elgin will add to the STARCOM21 network will also support radio traffic of other network
subscribers. This includes 1306 State Police, 3492 DuPage County, 8785 Cook County, 1224 Tollway, and 1166 McHenry which include neighboring local government Public
Safety Agencies.
Section 5 – Coverage area
This application includes the necessary 40, 25, and 5 dBu contour maps for the City of Elgin sites and the current STARCOM21 sites located in Kane County. The City is
requesting additional frequencies to support the microwave sites, which include: Plato, Nessler, Illinois State Police District 2, Shales Water Tank, Elgin Toll, Randall/College
Green Water Tank, 120 S. State Street and both the Main and Backup Dispatch Centers. The additional frequencies are necessary to provide the backhaul network and to maintain the Grade of Service for the public safety users of the STARCOM21 system. The contour maps were run on a software program called Hydra. Hydra is an internal use only software program designed and used by Motorola.
Section 6 – Vacated Frequencies Returned
No frequencies are planned to be vacated at this time.
Section 7 – Implementation Schedule
The City of Elgin plans to roll out all subscribers, 738 users, by October of 2013 when the system is fully implemented and on the air
#1 by chris r on November 7, 2013 - 5:35 AM
The scanner is a GRE 800 for tdma phase 2. check wwwscannermaster.com , they are a very good company and I have used a couple of times .
#2 by Scott on November 6, 2013 - 9:48 PM
Its a Scanner made by GRE. I do not know the model, but it runs about $600.
#3 by Bill Post on October 29, 2013 - 2:10 PM
Which Scanner model receives the TDMA? Is the home patrol or not? Thanks.
#4 by Scott on October 27, 2013 - 11:38 PM
To sum this document up: Elgin is going to all Starcom. PD will be encrypted. Unknown on FD. Many other communites in Div 12 & 1 that have Starcom radios may also put the Elgin System in their radios.
I understand the talkgroups are already set up and there has been intermittent traffic for PD & FD the last few months. When the actual switchover for FD happens is unknown at this time. Also, Elgin is supposed to also go to Phase 2 (TDMA) so untill all scanner manufacturers start making their scanners with this technology, only one out there currently ($500-$600) that receives TDMA.