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New engines for Chicago

Work has begun at E-ONE on new engines for Chicago – so 141466 & 141467

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#1 by Mike Guzzi on October 18, 2017 - 2:31 PM

Boston: all the KME’s both Eng/Ladders were removed from service due to diesel engine issues: Only ones left in service were Eng-22 and Lad-16, Tower Ladder-10 and both Rescue 1 & 2. From what I heard they have different engines in them so they are keeping them in service for now.
#2 by Michael M on October 18, 2017 - 1:40 PM

Glad to hear Boston went back with E-One. Didn’t Boston go with KME for awhile and was there something about Boston suing some engine manufacturer because of the fact that their rigs were not working as they should have been?
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#3 by Mike Guzzi on October 18, 2017 - 9:49 AM

Boston Ma FD just received 20 brand new 2017 E-One Typhoon 1250/560/30F all within 3-4 months of each other with 3 more to come end of the year or beginning of 2018 and 9 new 2016 E-One Cyclone II Metro 100′ RMA with 3-4 more coming soon. Way too many new ones all at once, just my opinion. http://www.firenews.org/mass/b/boston/boston.html
#4 by Crabby Milton on October 17, 2017 - 5:09 PM

Chuck your points are good ones and well taken. I still think you can standardize provided you just buy the same apparatus from the same builder every time. Bulk is good for those that want to try something different.
But the problem comes in if they turn out to be a bunch of lemons then you had better hope the the spares/reserves are up to it. Then they all get old at the same time so that may get ugly too even if they are good and well cared for rigs, they still get old and wear out at some point.
#5 by danny on October 17, 2017 - 4:37 PM

except 102 who has received a newer rig from one of the companies that got a new e one last year
#6 by danny on October 17, 2017 - 4:33 PM

like aidan said all those companies have 1997 1998 and 2000 rigs
#7 by harry on October 17, 2017 - 4:20 PM

marty what Chicago engines are 20 years old I thought they were all like about 2002 now
#8 by Aidan Hughes on October 17, 2017 - 3:21 PM

Engines 11, 39, 59, 74, 80, 81, 92, 94, 97, 102, 104, and 127 have frontline rigs that are very old. They need new rigs desperately! Besides, how many are they making and where will these new engines be assigned to?
#9 by Marty Coyne on October 17, 2017 - 9:19 AM

Harry, by contract FDNY has to replace all frontline apparatus every 10 years. Chicago has engines 20 years old in frontline service
#10 by harry on October 16, 2017 - 10:35 PM

I wonder what engine co will get these also fdny runs the wheels off of these and boston still has a lot of very old engines and trucks for instance boston t23 that code 3 made is a reserve but it is 20yo
#11 by Chuck on October 16, 2017 - 7:02 PM

Milton, it would be a good idea in a few respects. One, there would probably be a slight discount in price. Two, it would allow you to have a reasonable amount of standardization over time from the repair aspect. Fewer rig types to maintain parts for, much less for the fact that a greater portion of your fleet would be under warranty. Three, you might have more manufacturers willing to bid, giving you a wider choice of apparatus to pick from.
#12 by Marty Coyne on October 16, 2017 - 9:45 AM

Bill, they just keep amending the original contract and adding on. You can see it here.

https://webapps1.cityofchicago.org/VCSearchWeb/org/cityofchicago/vcsearch/controller/contracts/display.do?contractNumber=28362
#13 by CrabbyMilton on October 16, 2017 - 5:57 AM

I don’t want to blast anyone but how does replacing the whole or a large portion of the fleet at once save anything?
If they all wear out at the same time that will cost more I would think. Probably a good argument for first in first out and the bulk method. MFD does it about 1 or 2 rigs a year on average give or take.
#14 by Bill Post on October 16, 2017 - 4:48 AM

I’m glad the CFD is getting much needed new engines, however I have a few questions. I initially thought these engines were an add on to the contract for the two engines at O’Hare. I read that the order was to be for up to five engines. If that was correct it should have expired by now. Over the last year the CFD has put six new engines in service. Now that they could be getting a new batch of three to seven it would appear that these should be from a new contract.
So are these engines still part of the O’Hare order or are they part of an emergency order? If not it seems kind of strange that they were not announced as an order to be bid. The city normally puts out a request for bids on new apparatus but in this case it hasn’t happened.
#15 by Danny on October 16, 2017 - 4:00 AM

Supposed to be 7 total on this order all due before feb 2018
#16 by Chuck on October 16, 2017 - 12:47 AM

At the rate of 2-3 rigs every 8 months to a year, we should be able to replace the whole fleet by….2075. Somebody needs to show him the FDNY or Boston or Los Angeles, where they buy apparatus IN BULK. Probably cheaper, instead of this dribs and drabs method.