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Auction #3800644 – 1993 SPARTAN / LUVERNE FIRE ENGINE
Current Price $2,500.00 (Reserve has been met)
Time Left 3 days 4 hours
High Bidder# of Bids 1
First Offer $2,500.00Auction Started: Jun 27, 2025 02:47 PM MDT
Auction Ends: Jul 3, 2025 01:30 PM MDTYear: 1993Manufacturer: SPARTANModel: FIRE TRUCKHours: UNKNOWNVIN: 4S7CT9K00PC007303Running Condition: UNKNOWNNOTE: NO KEY; NEEDS REPLACEMENT TRANSFER CASE, DRIVE SHAFT, WATER PUMP & RIGHT REAR PASSENGER DOOR; AXLES REMOVED FOR TRANSPORT PURPOSE (May be missing unidentified parts; Other items pictured are not included in auction; operating condition not known; other unidentified issues may be present).
thanks Martin
#1 by John Antkowski on July 3, 2025 - 6:40 PM
If nothing else, you can say the Spartan Diamond/Luvernes were built tough. Did they have a full frame? Not airbags? The cab’s looked roomy. When the company changed to Crimson was the quality still there?
#2 by Danny on July 3, 2025 - 6:12 PM
Harry chicago isn’t other depts.. that’s the thing….. the nyc rigs from the 70s were usually refurbished after fdnt decided it was too far gone for them to keep in service
#3 by harry on July 3, 2025 - 5:45 PM
mike c there are depts all over the country running ladders engines that they get from nyc from the 70s and need work like this and they fix them and busy depts too and heck philly has rigs older than chicago in reserve
#4 by Mike L on July 3, 2025 - 4:05 PM
D-537…. wasn’t even the oldest spare in the fleet before it met its demise. I believe D-535 is still going strong in the spare pool.
#5 by DaveyB on July 3, 2025 - 8:51 AM
When everybody says “water pump”, do they mean
the water pump for the cooling system or the fire pump? Either way, that’s a big expense to the buyer.
#6 by Mike C on July 3, 2025 - 7:48 AM
Is Hairy even a real person? Maybe he’s an A.I. bot??? How can anyone with a normal mindset think this engine is worthy of anything other than the scrapyard. This rig isn’t worth putting a dime into!
#7 by Danny on July 2, 2025 - 3:49 PM
1993 Spartan Diamond/Luverne
1500/500
Delivered: 1/5/1993
Apparatus Assignments
Engine Co. 88 (3/19/1993 – 4/1/1998)
Engine Co. 64 (5/14/1998 – 3/14/2007)
Spare engine (2007 – 2024)
#8 by Mike on July 1, 2025 - 10:02 AM
Harry that’s not 2,000.00 in repairs. A pump is probably 50,000. And the transfer case is probably another 30, plus the extras. And then you’re still looking at labor. F2M charges CFD for labor on their rigs. In 1993 when this was new you couldn’t buy a pump or transfer case for 2,000.00 then. Thanks for the good laugh though.
#9 by crabbymilton on July 1, 2025 - 6:31 AM
Well it would be nice if every fire apparatus could be saved and/or in like new and pristine condition worthy of a museum after many years of service. The reality is that most vehicles fire apparatus or not will end up being scrapped. Big city FD’s are often notorious for pounding the poop out of their rigs. Not saying they do it on purpose but there’s not always time to pamper the apparatus like many smaller and suburban rigs. A few examples may wind up in the hands of people who have the skills, patience, and fat money clips to restore them if they aren’t too damaged or are still road worthy.
#10 by harry on July 1, 2025 - 12:08 AM
mike yeah about 2 thousand in repairs is a from cry from 1 million plus if i had the money i save this beauty what a waste letting it go
#11 by Mike on June 30, 2025 - 9:21 PM
Harry who cares what other departments run. This engine spent 32 years of hard service, harsh winters and most likely no maintenance. The listing says there was a catastrophic failure of the pump and transfer case. It isn’t worth fixing because there are most likely other major problems with this apparatus. If you want to save it, then buy it, fix it and donate it back to the city…. You’re gonna need a rear cab door also.
#12 by harry on June 30, 2025 - 9:10 PM
mike
i know its 32 years old but there are a lot of depts that have rigs older that this still frontline there is a 1975 mack tower ladder in pa still runs and they are not getting rid of it
#13 by Mike on June 30, 2025 - 7:57 PM
Harry that engine is 32 years old. That’s 32 years of being run into the ground. The only reason the city gets rid of anything is because of a major failure. Listed in the sale says it needs a transfer case, pump and a drive shaft. So this apparatus after 32 hard years had a catastrophic failure that wasn’t cost efficient to repair. The vector bar probably got taken off by someone at F2M and will be on eBay in a few months.
#14 by harry on June 30, 2025 - 7:04 PM
well that is a shame even thought it served more than 30 years i really cant imagine they should get rid of it plus why take the vector light off what are they going to put it on
#15 by Tim on June 30, 2025 - 11:15 AM
probably was a spare 6 months ago