New quint for the North Palos Fire Protection District (more)

This from Matt Tessler:

Our new truck was delivered today (Friday)

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Matt Tessler photo

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18 Comments

#1 by Ed on October 7, 2022 - 11:37 AM

That’s interesting. My department was going to try something similar with our 1986 open-cab spare engine. Our frontline engine is a 2014 Pierce. We went to one of those free grant classes and they said we wouldn’t be able to put in for the grant to replace our spare because the front-line engine was fully NFPA compliant. The guy running the class explained that they have a lot of volunteer departments who still run open-cab vehicles first out and they get priority over someone who is trying to replace an open-cab spare vehicle. Does anyone know if the actual grants that were submitted are made public? I’d really like to look at the one from North Palos to see exactly how they worded it.
#2 by Brian Landi on October 6, 2022 - 6:17 PM

This is taken directly from the North Palos web page. This should put to rest the discussion about which truck they are donating to Moraine Valley.

The North Palos Fire Protection District is proud to announce the long-anticipated delivery of their new Aerial Ladder Truck. The 2022 E-One 110’ Quint Aerial Ladder was ordered in October of 2020 after the district received a Vehicle Acquisition Grant award from FEMA through the Assistance to Firefighters Grant (AFG) program.

The grant award of $727,272.73 was the largest award in the highly competitive Vehicle Acquisition category within Illinois during the five previous (2015-2020) program years.

The $1,006,291 purchase price of the truck along with essential equipment has been completely covered through both the grant award and a generous $400,000 donation from a private donor.

The new truck is planned to be placed in service at the end of the month and will replace the current 2001 Aerial Ladder as the front-line truck. As a requirement of the grant, the district’s reserve 1987 Ladder Truck can no longer be used in emergency operations and is being donated to the Moraine Valley Community College Fire Academy to be used in the training of student firefighters.
#3 by Cmk420 on October 5, 2022 - 12:07 AM

I am in a class at North Palos that started last week & continues next week. I will see if I can find out anything.
#4 by Harry on October 4, 2022 - 9:25 PM

Well in may 2012 Franklin pk IL had a 1984 1989 eone engine and a 1994 and 1999 pierce engine and because they applied for a grant and because they were awarded the grant the grant stated the partially enclosed 1984 eone engine had to go because it was considered not as safe as fully enclosed one because they ordered 2 identical Spartans fp bought one and a grant for most of the second one then once both were gone the 84 had to go and the 89 was gone in 2009 so in 2013 the 84 and 94 went leaving the dept with a 99 and two 2013
#5 by Martin on October 4, 2022 - 6:46 PM

Are we 100% sure about the grant? I don’t recall reading about them getting one.
#6 by John Adams on October 4, 2022 - 5:08 PM

He’s right. They need to dispose of their 2002 E-One. I wrote about 5 of these grants over the years and a couple were for new vehicles. The grant will only replace front-line vehicles. Spare vehicles do not count. They also tend to award them if the fire apparatus from 1992 or older. If they wrote the grant claiming that the 1987 ladder truck was their front line vehicle, then they obviously lied. That’s a big no-no with these grants. FEMA does look into these issues to make sure the funds were properly rewarded (especially anything over one million dollars). If that’s the case, then I bet you’ll see them get in a lot of trouble and will either have to forfeit the new truck or pay off the total balance of the award they received. This happened to a department on the west coast and they got in big trouble and had to cough up over a million dollars for saying a older spare vehicle was the front line apparatus that they needed to replace. The gist of it is that they need to formally dispose of the 2002 E-One. Somebody on here has to know somebody over there they could ask about this. I’d be curious to know the outcome because if they have to pay the money back, that will open up a grant opportunity for another department.
#7 by Harry on October 4, 2022 - 11:43 AM

The 1987 looks like an eone to me in the 4th photo from the top
#8 by John Adams on October 4, 2022 - 7:25 AM

They have to get rid of the 2002. These FEMA grants are only eligible to replace front line vehicles. They had to justify them needing the funds to replace their 2002 E-One. Since they were awarded the grant, they must dispose of that vehicle. They aren’t allowed to keep it in their fleet. I guess that’s the trade off for a mostly free truck, you have to get rid of the one your replacing. I would imagine they would keep that 87 Pierce as their reserve like they’ve been doing.
#9 by Cmk420 on October 3, 2022 - 10:00 PM

So, are they keeping the 87 Pierce as reserve? Can’t they decommission the 87 (since that is the one they are “technically” replacing) & keep the 02 as reserve? The 87 is an open cab in the rear & I didn’t think those were used too much any more for safety reasons.
#10 by John Miller on October 3, 2022 - 3:46 PM

The 2002 E-One is going to Moraine Valley. North Palos received this new truck on a FEMA grant. Part of the stipulation of the grant is that they are getting it to replace the truck from their current front line apparatus. They have to decommission the apparatus it’s replacing. Hence, they had to dispose of the 2002 E-One in their fleet in order to get the grant.
#11 by MABAS 21 on October 2, 2022 - 2:03 PM

The long overhang is because it has is a 110′ main.

When the 2022 goes in service, the 2002 will go into reserve as T814 and the current T814, 1987, is going to be given to Moraine Valley Community College.

NOPA still only has 2 personnel staffed on both engines and the truck. The ambulances marry to the suppression companies.
#12 by Tim on October 2, 2022 - 1:27 PM

What’s their manning like now? They still running 2 on the truck and if available 2 contract guys from the ambo?
#13 by Big Moe on October 2, 2022 - 2:14 AM

Really cool looking unit, except for the long ladder overhang. I’m sure there is a reason for it but I’ve never seen an E-One with that much nested extension.
They do run the wheels off their rigs there.
#14 by Matt on October 1, 2022 - 4:50 PM

Currently yes, plan on getting some picture with all 3 trucks before the 1987 is gone. The new truck will be on display at the fire chiefs convention down in Peoria in two weeks.
#15 by Martin on October 1, 2022 - 4:37 PM

Do you guys still have all 3?
#16 by Michael m on October 1, 2022 - 4:19 PM

Sharp looking truck.
#17 by Harry on October 1, 2022 - 1:12 PM

Looks very nice I love how the rear steps are very unique
#18 by Tim on October 1, 2022 - 12:55 PM

At least they specd it with stack tips instead of the crappy electric combo nozzle everyone is buying.