thanks Tim
New tower ladder for Lombard FD
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#1 by Tim on July 15, 2022 - 9:20 PM
You can negotiate just about any length of lease you want. 5 and 6 year leases were pretty common for awhile, not sure about now.
Mike M. if there weren’t any supply problems, a new tower build is usually about a year depending on manufacturer and specs.
#2 by The DH on July 15, 2022 - 6:53 PM
Michael M – the oldest will be Engine 46, an 07 Pierce Dash, which will be the next to be replaced in a couple years.
The lead time isn’t only due to supply chain, but there’s a considerable back log of rigs as departments slammed orders in before a number of price increases in the last few years.
Leasing is an incredible option, Plainfield leases. Harry did you know that? You lease a rig and then either keep it or give it back at the 10 yr mark, which is around when rigs go from not many problems to more problematic (usually)…and you can order a new one before the lease is up.
#3 by LFD 543 on July 15, 2022 - 1:02 PM
You also have to take inflation into consideration. Doing a Google search, I found that $1 in 1984, for example, is equivalent in purchasing power to about $2.85 today.
#4 by Mike hellmuth on July 15, 2022 - 10:44 AM
Does any dept still lease or lease purchase apparatus? Or is this not feasible
anymore because of cost prices?
#5 by Michael m on July 15, 2022 - 10:24 AM
How long would it take to build a ladder truck if there were no supply chain issues? I am surprised this tower ladder is being built as a 2024 and not a 2023.
Once this arrives the oldest front line rig will be the 2016 Engine 45. Engine 44 will only be 3 years old. The reserve will be the oldest since it is a 2010.
#6 by harry on July 15, 2022 - 8:16 AM
mike c back in 1984 franklin pk 84 eone engine was less than 150 000 brand new
#7 by Mike on July 15, 2022 - 8:08 AM
Mike C. Things started getting expensive around 2010. An aerial or tower ladder usually ran about a million and an engine was anywhere from 3-500,000. Now towers are over 1.5 million and engines are running up to 800,000
The cost of materials and all the additional stuff DEF, NFPA safety stuff and of course the name plate on some apparatus have driven costs up. The problem is a lot of departments budgets haven’t gone up to keep up with the costs of equipment.
An SCBA example. In 2000 an scba, any make, was 2-2,500 per unit. Today the scba from any manufacturer is anywhere from 5,500-8,000.
#8 by Mike C on July 15, 2022 - 5:58 AM
Back in the 80’s you could buy a new pumper for $200k. The way prices have changed is amazing!