From Seagrave on Facebook:
The Lockport Township Fire Protection District currently has in production a new Seagrave Marauder engine for the town of Lockport, Illinois. Congratulations to Lockport Township and thank you for your trust in Seagrave Fire Apparatus.
Some features of this apparatus include
* Seagrave 141″ Marauder Stainless Steel Cab
* Cummins L9 450 HP
* 37 Inch Cab Access Compartments
* Waterous CSU 2000 GPM Pump
* Stainless Steel Pump Plumbing
* 750 Gallon Water Tank
* 146 Inch Stainless Steel Body
* Whelen LED Warning Light Package
* Whelen LED 12V Scene Light Package
* 184″ Wheelbase
* 32′ Overall Length
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#1 by Big Moe on June 30, 2021 - 9:49 AM
Wondering why all these new Seagrave orders are coming with flat roof cabs instead of a 10 or 12 ” raised roof. Much more comfortable in a raised roof cab to work and do checks etc. I don’t think station door height in Lockport is the answer.
#2 by Mike C on June 30, 2021 - 7:28 AM
Do you think the Pierce or Seagrave will have a longer lifespan? Without a doubt, Seagrave. Do you think a Pierce could withstand the abuse of FDNY? Highly doubtful. I heard the Pierce heavy rescue that FDNY has worked out okay for them but it was also in frontline service for only 4 years.
In the course of the life of the vehicle, will the Seagrave or Pierce have a lower cost of maintenance? Easily Seagrave. Pierce has so many EXPENSIVE proprietary parts it’s unbelievable! I’ve done repairs on the TAK-4 many times and the parts cost is disgusting!
Will the overall in service time throughout the life of the vehicle be higher on a Pierce or a Seagrave? I’m assuming “in service” meaning the amount of time the vehicle is ready to respond to a job. Tough question to answer. All depends on dealer support and service center support. In Chicagoland, I’d say the in service time will be higher on a Seagrave simply because McQueen constantly drags their feet and it’s not uncommon to send a truck there and not see it for 3-4 weeks.
#3 by Bulldog on June 29, 2021 - 8:07 AM
This is only opinion based. If interested, copy/paste the questions below with your answer next to them. If you’re an enthusiast on this site without direct experience of these two brands, hold-off on answering these questions, but perhaps, think of a question that might be trivial to an enthusiast.
All questions are with the assumption the rig is in a high volume district/department in the same atmosphere. Lets also assume both rigs are following the same or very similar spec when originally built.
Do you think the Pierce or Seagrave will have a longer lifespan?
In the course of the life of the vehicle, will the Seagrave or Pierce have a lower cost of maintenance?
Will the overall in service time throughout the life of the vehicle be higher on a Pierce or a Seagrave?
#4 by Mike C on June 28, 2021 - 7:29 AM
I wonder if Lockport switched to Seagrave from Pierce since their later year Pierce rigs were complete trash. Last I knew, the 2008 Pierce rear mount tower had major structural issues with the aerial and it was going to cost more to repair than the truck was worth. The 1999 rear mount ladder seems to have held up better than the 2008 tower.
#5 by The DH on June 26, 2021 - 5:43 PM
I believe 2 on the engine and 2 on an ambulance is minimum manning. If above minimum, where would the extras ride? Who’s to say they don’t add more personnel in 5, 10, 15 years? You own a rig for 20 yrs. Also, I don’t believe it changes much cost to subtract a seat…
Lockport is a good department, I think they built a rig how it works for them…despite your expert opinions.
#6 by Tim on June 26, 2021 - 10:09 AM
IF the ambo is in quarters.
#7 by Hunter on June 26, 2021 - 8:51 AM
The paramedics from the ambulances jump over to the engines/truck whenever there is a fire in the district.
#8 by Tim on June 26, 2021 - 6:12 AM
They will never be running 3, 4, or 5.
#9 by harry on June 25, 2021 - 10:18 PM
what if in the future they ever decide to run 3 – 4 -or 5 on the engine and only have 3 seats
#10 by Michael m on June 25, 2021 - 9:54 PM
Looks like it will be a nice rig. Agreed, they should only have 3 seats. Don’t know why they need 5.
#11 by Mike on June 25, 2021 - 8:26 PM
Looks like a nice rig. Just wondering why it has 5 seats when they only run with 2 on the engine.