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• #1 by Bill Post on December 16, 2020 - 12:28 AM

  

  Yes Harry I mentioned that New York City was about to resurrect the Super Pumper on a smaller scale, however it is not in service yet.

  The funny thing is that will not be going in service at Engine 207’s house in downtown Brooklyn where the Super Pumper was located and in fact was built for the original Super Pumper. It will be going in service at Engine 260 in Queens.

• #2 by harry on December 15, 2020 - 9:08 PM

  

  since bill brought this up that nyc ran super pumpers but they still run super pumper it is a 2020 ferrera with like a 5200 plus gpm

• #3 by danny on December 15, 2020 - 10:59 AM

  

  yeah its a long way from done last i heard but it was running and driving …. when it went from fleet on north and throop to the auction lot by 103rd and stoney island the original nozzle tips went “missing” so as far as i know it was new tips that have been adapted to fit it. still needs a good overhaul and paint and decal work probably some electrical as well.

• #4 by Bill Post on December 15, 2020 - 9:47 AM

  

  Thanks for the news Danny, I was not aware that a private collector is working on the former 671.

• #5 by danny on December 15, 2020 - 9:10 AM

  

  bill i can assure you it was old but 671 was not junked it is being worked on and restored slowly in NW indiana in a private collectors hands

• #6 by Bill Post on December 15, 2020 - 2:35 AM

  

  Speaking of turret wagons, while 673 and 676 are still in service and both received new chassis and turrets in 2013 like Matt said, it was still a foolish idea for them to take the large turret wagon 671 out of service on August 16, 2011. The fire department did take it out of the moth balls and used it at the ruins of a 5-11 Alarm fire with 2 Specials at 3757 S Ashland in January of 2013. That rig had been in service since 1975 and was last housed with Engine 23 and Tower Ladder 5. All they needed to do was to remount the piping and the two large turrets onto a new platform and chassis. While rigs like that aren’t used often, they come in handy when needed. They have no personnel costs since they don’t have a crew assigned like most of the special operations rigs.

  New York City runs with six Satellite Hose Wagons which have high volume deluge guns and large diameter hose. They are actually a remnant of the famous Super Pumper System which went in service around 1965 through 1982. The satellite units were increased from three to six and the engine companies housed with them were given 2,000-GPM pumpers. These would respond to extra alarm fires with the satellite companies in addition to regular engine company assignments within their own first-due districts. The satellite units at that time were manned by a driver from the engine company. Over the years when the satellites were replaced by newer rigs, the large turrets were salvaged and reinstalled on the replacement units.

  During the last few months, the New York satellite units have been getting new rigs with high-volume monitors. As a rule, a Satellite unit will be dispatched with their engines on a 2nd alarm. In 1983 when the 2,000-GPM pumpers were purchased, all of the other FDNY pumpers were only rated at 1,000-GPM. All FDNY pumpers were upgraded with 2,000-GPM pumps over last past 10 years.

  The FDNY is about to resurrect the Super Pumper on a slightly smaller scale. They are due to receive a custom built, Ferrara, 5,500-GPM industrial pumper with a high volume monitor. While the original Super Pumper was built as a Mack tractor trailer rig and could pump between 8 and 10,000-GPM, the new Ferrara Inundator, is on a regular pumper chassis, and has a capacity that is over twice that of two 2,000-GPM pumpers.

  I’m not suggesting that the Chicago Fire Department purchase a 5,000-GPM pumper, however I think they should build a high capacity deluge gun unit similar to that of 671.

• #7 by John Antkowski on December 14, 2020 - 7:33 PM

  

  You would think that with that much fire, someone would have put one of those trucks in operation with a ladder pipe. The squad was doing nothing with their stream. Just saying, The building is a loss.

• #8 by Matt on December 14, 2020 - 11:19 AM

  

  There are two turret wagons, 6-7-3 @ E108 and 6-7-6 @ E104. Both were placed in the service at the same time and are identical, being built on Ford F Series chassis with TFT nozzles. There is no manning assigned to the units as they rely on the Engine Company to respond with the vehicle. I believe that once they are dispatched, the engine company is dedicated to support the deluge wagon.

• #9 by Jim Mitidiero on December 14, 2020 - 5:54 AM

  

  I believe 6-7-6 is still at Engine 104. It is also used to pull the small boat stationed there that had a signature, possibly 6-8-10. That was a couple of years ago.

• #10 by Fred M on December 13, 2020 - 7:28 PM

  

  I believe 6-7-3 is the newest turret or “deluge” truck and I think it is still around. Last I heard it was housed at Eng 108. Must be special called.
  Bill P would know if it’s still available

• #11 by Tom Foley on December 12, 2020 - 9:55 PM

  

  Are those Turret Wagons still around… at least at one point, number 6-7-3.

  I assume these are called as a special.

• #12 by Rj on December 11, 2020 - 8:16 PM

  

  E38 might need some paint work

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