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New engine for Plainfield FPD

From the Pierce Flickr page:

Pierce, Plainfield, IL, 33840-1

Pierce composite

thanks Al

Tags: new engine for Plainfield FPD, Pierce Enforcer pumper, Plainfield Fire Protection District, Plainfield FPD Engine 1941

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9 Comments

• #1 by Mike C on December 30, 2019 - 6:44 AM

  

  Sorry Tim, I must’ve had my head up my ass when I wrote that. I like your simple way of communicating this.

  In terms of cramp angles being tighter over the past 15 years, I think it depends on the manufacturer and spec. I worked on a KME that was about 5 years old at the time about 12 or 13 years ago that had the front suction pipe plumbing affecting the actual cramp angle. The front axle had been modified so that the tires wouldn’t make contact with the plumbing. It was really poor engineering on the behalf of KME. I later worked on another KME with the same chassis without a front suction and while the wheelbase was longer on this rig the cramp angle was tighter and the turning radius was equal to or better than the rig with the front suction. I’ll admit Pierce and Seagrave both have designed their cab and chassis with plenty of room in the wheel-well to allow for a tight cramp angle. Other manufacturers not so much.

• #2 by Tim on December 29, 2019 - 4:10 PM

  

  You must not be aware of cramp angle as wheelbase has no effect on cramp angle. Wheelbase affects turning radius. However, cramp angle AND wheelbase affects turning radius.

• #3 by Mike C on December 29, 2019 - 1:21 PM

  

  I’m well aware of cramp angle sir but naturally the longer the wheelbase the lower the cramp angle.

• #4 by Tim on December 28, 2019 - 7:59 PM

  

  Mike C I thought you were an EVT. It has a top mount pump panel that makes the wheelbase a little bit longer than a side mount. As far as turning radius, not sure if it has a Tak 4 or straight axle but are you famiilar with cramp angles? They’re so much tighter now than they were 30 years ago even 15 years ago…..they won’t have any trouble maneuvering that rig. It could have a generator. You wouldn’t necessarily see it from that picture.

• #5 by harry on December 28, 2019 - 1:57 PM

  

  I will be going there in a few months to see there plow truck so I will find out any new info because in late 15 early 16 I was told they had a new engine and a new tanker coming but this was several years ago

• #6 by Mike C on December 28, 2019 - 7:25 AM

  

  Some nice features. Love the Wil-Burt light tower. I don’t see a generator on-board which makes me wonder if this is the LED tower. I don’t know Plainfield’s roads but this has a long wheelbase. I can’t imagine the turning radius being very good. Is it just me or does it look like it has the low-pro stance like E-One?

• #7 by michael m on December 28, 2019 - 6:03 AM

  

  Nice looking engine! It looks like they bought 2 engines. I wonder which stations they will be going to? My guess is they will replace the 08 Engines.

• #8 by Crabbymilton on December 28, 2019 - 2:14 AM

  

  Quite the color contrast. An impressive monster just the same.

• #9 by harry on December 27, 2019 - 10:21 PM

  

  looks very nice I see it is either the enforcer or saber and it has a full size lightbar

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