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New engines for Chicago

Production photos of three engines being built for Chicago by E-ONE so#142585, 142586, and 142587

E-ONE fire engine being built for Chicago

E-ONE photo

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24 Comments

#1 by Jim on April 6, 2019 - 8:37 AM

NFPA is a recommendation, but the historic issue has always been whether failure to follow or comply could be a liability in court. Plus insurance has often pushed to follow NFPA recommendations for compliance and likely liability as well. Not saying I agree with all this, but just the reality those with higher pay grades and white shirts have to deal with. 🙂
#2 by MABAS 21 on April 5, 2019 - 2:22 PM

I’m not arguing that fact Marty.
#3 by Marty Coyne on April 5, 2019 - 1:32 PM

NFPA standard is not a law or requirement.
#4 by MABAS 21 on April 5, 2019 - 11:36 AM

As far as I remember correctly, the NFPA never recognized green lights to be placed on the front of fire apparatus. In the standard, green lights were only allowed on top of command vehicles. Departments purchasing new apparatus alledgedly had to sign a waiver allowing the retrofitting of green lights on the front of apparatus. If anyone wants to be technical, Jim is correct about the red, clear and blue lighting on the front of fire apparatus. Also the clear (white) lights have to shut down when the vehicle is in park.
#5 by Danny on April 5, 2019 - 7:59 AM

Unless something changes the era of the blue marker light on top of the rig is over. As well as the era of solid red vehicles
#6 by Marty Coyne on April 4, 2019 - 11:53 PM

Jim will the E-Ones ordered under Santiago (and the squads) have blue lights. The two E-One towers since Ford became commissioner have the classic CFD red/green/white lights with no blue anywhere. Those are they most recent rigs bought. Lots more on the way.
#7 by Jim on April 4, 2019 - 11:00 PM

Marty don’t most of the new e-one engines have blue lights? I’d love to see the green come back out of tradition.
#8 by Marty Coyne on April 4, 2019 - 4:01 PM

Jim, in follow up to that, since the new commissioner took over they have returned to the red, green and white lights on the rigs. No blue anywhere. TL 5 and 21 both have this light setup.
#9 by Jim on April 4, 2019 - 2:33 PM

So in follow up to my blue lights post… Turns out that NFPA 1901 requirements now state only White, Red or Blue on the front warning lights. Didn’t realize this change had occurred (not like I sit around reading NFPA requirements these days!). So there you go…
#10 by danny on April 4, 2019 - 12:56 PM

rigs at academy are supposed to be back at their respective companies on the 15th last word i heard.

as far as these new rigs im almost positive these are the last 3 from out side the contract to be ordered. thatwould make the rigs on order currently pre contract.

the new 6-8-7 from e one on a ford chassis

these 3 engines from e-one

and a 137 ft ladder from e one as well

i think this will be the first time in a long time if ever that all the trucks and engines in the fleet will be from one manufacturer.
#11 by jim on April 4, 2019 - 11:54 AM

So another tid bit…

The bid on these could definitely use some updating. CFD asked for a Federal Signal View Point or equivalent and Federal Signal doesn’t even make the View Point any more – it’s been replaced with the Vision SLR.

There is an option on the Vision SLR to choose from 4 different colored pods which include White, Red, Blue and Yellow. For $165 per pod you can get any color you want, but my guess is that since CFD didn’t specifically say they wanted green, the bid price was kept down by keeping “stock” light pod color choices. Unless someone at CFD really wants blue lights now…

Could just do the old green tint trick that we used to do back in the day. 🙂
#12 by Marty Coyne on April 4, 2019 - 11:08 AM

Lots of problems with the E-Ones. They are OOS very often. Problems include engine, transmission and electrical. E-One doesn’t make the engines and tranny’s. Electrical issues are due to all the garbage they’re required to put in for emissions and regulatory
#13 by rich S. on April 4, 2019 - 10:05 AM

Nothing is wrong with the rigs. They are being used for the current Engineers promotional class training.
#14 by FLEET GUY on April 4, 2019 - 9:46 AM

CHRIS S.- Lots of electronic/electrical issues are coming up from the winter. 125 was severely damage in a accident it will be gone indefinitely. Its going to be a major rebuilt just like T-47. 73 & 94 are being used for the training of the new batch of engineers for about 4 weeks.
#15 by Chris S on April 4, 2019 - 5:56 AM

Is something going on w/ the current crop of E-Ones, 125, 94 & 73 have spares, 73 & 94 are sitting empty at the Academy
#16 by Jim on April 3, 2019 - 2:20 PM

Just realizing all these new pumpers will have stainless steel bodies meaning they have to be built in E-One’s Hamburg plant which isn’t very big. Chicago is going to keep that place busy over the next five years!
#17 by Rich S. on April 3, 2019 - 10:54 AM

Being that the cab is longer I believe these are off the new order contract. And these could end up anywhere but probably going to replace the HME’s.
#18 by Michael m on April 3, 2019 - 9:29 AM

Any bets on which companies these will go to? My guess is these will replace the remaining HME’s.
#19 by Marty Coyne on April 3, 2019 - 9:08 AM

Jim is correct about the cab length being larger. These may or may not be from the new order, but they are definitely the longer cab spec.
#20 by Luke Jackson on April 3, 2019 - 7:44 AM

When I read the article for Chicago in Fire Apparatus Journal, they said the contract wasn’t signed yet, but three engines were ordered. So these are probably not, but i’m not saying they’re not.
#21 by John Antkowski on April 3, 2019 - 7:33 AM

Good to see them start down the line. I still have not seen the 137’ aerial start down the line. I wonder about that too? Are these off the new contract or from the Galvastin consortium? John
#22 by Michael m on April 3, 2019 - 6:27 AM

The contract calls for 90 engines for the city. I believe the city has 96 engines which include the three at O-Hare and the fire boat. That would leave 92 land engines in the city proper. If these three engines are not part of the contract, then that means maybe the engines that were built in 16 will be replaced as part of the contract?
#23 by Luke Jackson on April 3, 2019 - 5:53 AM

I thought I read somewhere that Chicago ordered three engines before the contract was signed. So I don’t think these are part of the contract but I’m not too sure.
#24 by Jim on April 2, 2019 - 9:24 PM

Looks like the start of the new big order as these have the longer cab with the cutout behind the crew door.