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New engines for Chicago (more)

From Josh Boyajian:

New E-ONE engines assigned to Engine 73 and Engine 121

Josh Boyajian photo

Josh Boyajian photo

The third new E-ONE engine was assigned to Engine 125

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18 Comments

#1 by Michael M on November 11, 2016 - 5:54 PM

Engine 94 does not appear to have a very big station. Would one of theses E-Ones fit into 94’s house? Also it makes sense that the city would take the remaining late 1990’s engines out of service first. Fire Engines are not cheap, I am sure that is why the city buys the rigs a few at a time.
- #2 by Mike on November 11, 2016 - 10:05 PM
  
  There are a lot of fitnent issues in some houses. So don’t be surprised if you see some more HME engines. Also some houses where the rigs are stacked like engine 99 or side by side like 98’s house they’re using the E series ambulances because they don’t fit length wise or they can’t get the rig out the door without hitting the building because of how long the F series is. The city is very slow at replacing rigs because it’s not made a priority by the bosses.
#3 by Aidan Hughes on November 11, 2016 - 5:30 PM

Where will the three new engines go to when they get them next year
#4 by Bill Post on November 11, 2016 - 3:36 PM

Yes I have it from a few sources.
#5 by Aidan Hughes on November 11, 2016 - 2:51 PM

Are you sure Chicago FD ordered three more new E-One engines
#6 by Bill Post on November 11, 2016 - 2:37 PM

Thanks for the information CS. So it shows that those short wheelbase rigs were so unpopular that they didn’t even want them for spares. I agree with you Aiden that the HMEs should be replaced, even with hand me down rigs.
As to the next 3 E-One engines being ordered, I don’t know if they are an extension of the current order which was part of the O’Hare order for Engines 9 and 10. I know that usually the city will submit a request for bids, however it appears to me that Chicago’s budget for fire apparatus is so thin that they are just buying rigs piecemeal, a few here and there as they get some money to spend.
#7 by Aidan Hughes on November 11, 2016 - 2:09 PM

As a matter of fact all the HME Engines with short wheel bases should be replaced with new ones
#8 by cs on November 11, 2016 - 12:53 PM

@Bill P I know a few years back the city sold off the former engs 15,50,120 shortwheel base rigs for scrap
#9 by Bill Post on November 11, 2016 - 11:05 AM

There is actually an additional 1999 HME/Luverne rig still in service at Engine 39. There had been a total of eight 1997 (long wheelbase) models, six 1998 and four 1999 (with the short wheelbase). Unless some of the 1999 models have replaced some of the 1998 models then Engine 39 has the only 1999 model still in frontline service since Engine 102’s rig was damaged.
#10 by Bill Post on November 10, 2016 - 8:06 PM

Aidan even if Engine 125’s old rig becomes a spare it most likely would be a spare temporarily and could be reassigned to a company in another year or two. An example of what I’m talking about is the rig assigned to Engine 50. It was Engine 82’s 2002 Spartan, however it was being used as a spare rig for 4 or 5 years before being reassigned to Engine 50. When Engine 82 received their current apparatus, a 2010 Spartan Crimson, their 2002 Spartan Crimson was assigned to the spare pool.
What is even more unusual however is that Engine 50 was using a 1998 HME Luverne. A few years ago it was replaced by a 1995 Spartan Luverne, formerly Engine 89. They received a a 2001 Spartan Luverne which had been Engine 61. The unusual thing about Engine 50’s replacement is that it’s 3 years older then the rig it replaced.
According to what I understand, the HME Luvernes are not that popular due to the small crew cabs. Since the Spartan has a larger cab, it replaced the HME even though it’s older. To be fair about it, Engine 89’s older Spartan was probably in relatively good shape as 89 is one of the slower engines in the city. It is also one of the engines that is still BLS and not ALS.
Based strictly on age the next companies that should be replaced are Engines 94, 28, 104, and 80 as they will be 20 years old in a few months. After that it should be Engines 11, 59, 103, and 74 as they are pushing 19 years. Engine 102 would have been the next one however they were involved in an accident. I understand they are getting Engine 73’s old rig. The 8 companies that I just mentioned are the last frontline engines that were built in the 1990s. So before worrying about any rigs that were built in the 2000’s I would first replace all of the HME Luvernes which aren’t that popular to begin with.
- #11 by Aidan Hughes on November 11, 2016 - 12:34 PM
  
  I don’t think that rig would do for the spare pool because it is newer. Engine 92 should be replaced with that rig.
#12 by John on November 9, 2016 - 4:45 PM

I read in Fire Appratus Journal that Chicago ordered 3 more engines from e one and they should arrive in spring of 2017. Maybe some aerials too not for sure. John. Thanks for the pictures, Josh
#13 by Brian on November 9, 2016 - 4:19 PM

The spare pool is in bad shape so adding some “newer” options to that
#14 by Aidan Hughes on November 9, 2016 - 3:29 PM

It can’t go to the spare fleet yet
- #15 by Aidan Hughes on November 9, 2016 - 3:36 PM
  
  Why would E125’s old rig go into the spare fleet even though it’s a newer rig
#16 by FD guy on November 9, 2016 - 2:52 PM

E73 goes to 102 the others to the spare pool
#17 by Aidan Hughes on November 9, 2016 - 2:31 PM

I hear Engine 73’s old rig is going to Engine 102. But where is Engine 125’s old rig going to?
#18 by Aidan Hughes on November 9, 2016 - 12:28 PM

Where is Engine 125’s old rig going to be reassigned to?