This from Josh Boyajian:
Here are a few shots of Cicero’s new Truck 1 being built at Pierce. It’ll be a 2015 Pierce Dash CF PUC 100′ medium-duty
ladder truck. Should be done by the end of the month.
(Pierce Pictures)
New ladder truck being built for Cicero Truck 1. Pierce photo
Pierce photo
Pierce photo
Pierce photo
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#1 by Drew Smith on November 3, 2015 - 4:22 PM
Tips load per NFPA 1901 must be a minimum of 250 pounds for ladders and 750 pounds for platforms. For both, any prepiped waterway must flow at least 1000 GPM. This flow requirement means a more substantial design to accommodate the force and load of the flowing water.
NFPA 1901 does not require any specific number of stabilizers (outriggers/downriggers). The number is determined by the engineers/designers based on the load the ladder/boom must support. Besides the classic one on each side and two on each side setup, there are other configurations used in addition or combination with the classics such as a single front center, drop-down jacks on the four corners, and others. For example, the AerialScope uses six stabilizers: drop downs and fold downs.
#2 by Brian on November 3, 2015 - 11:15 AM
Perfect, thanks Josh
#3 by Josh on November 3, 2015 - 10:09 AM
the difference between a Heavy Duty ladder and a medium duty is ladder is the tip load, height, and set of outriggers. A medium duty ladder has a lesser tip load, I believe its 250lbs while flowing 1000GPM. (Could be wrong). A heavy duty ladder makes the rig taller, has two sets of outriggers, and the tip load can be anywhere from 500-750Ibs on the tip while flowing 1000GPM.
#4 by Brian on November 3, 2015 - 9:46 AM
What is the difference between a medium duty and a heavy duty ladder on the scene of an incident?
#5 by Member on November 3, 2015 - 9:13 AM
Like Josh said- this Dash CF will sport the faux American flag grille just like their Dash CF engine they have. This truck is a medium duty ladder, therefore it won’t have front outriggers, which is nice.
#6 by Matt on November 3, 2015 - 8:58 AM
The grill is purely cosmetic on the Dash CF and the new E-One HS models as the radiators are mounted elsewhere.
#7 by cfdfireman on November 2, 2015 - 11:51 PM
That rig will see you many many many fires from the years to come
#8 by Josh on November 2, 2015 - 9:02 PM
Lockport does have (2) New Engines being built by Pierce and are almost completely built. Probably be delivered within the month. Cicero’s rig will be done within the next week or so. Delivery probably end of this month.
#9 by Dennis on November 2, 2015 - 7:52 PM
Looks like this will be almost the same as Merrionette Parks new truck.
#10 by Rich on November 2, 2015 - 6:41 PM
Didn’t know lockport is getting new rigs?
#11 by Michael M on November 2, 2015 - 5:40 PM
Is Pierce building Lockport’s two engines?
#12 by Hunter on November 2, 2015 - 4:48 PM
Any pictures on Lockport’s two new engines
#13 by Josh on November 2, 2015 - 1:57 PM
This new Truck will have a grill with the American Flag
#14 by Rusty on November 2, 2015 - 1:29 PM
I believe on the dash cf/ puc design the radiater is on top of the body so therefor there is no need for a grill. The actual engine is under the rear doors on the cab. Which also allows them to go lighter on the front axle due to the weight distribution more towards the rear of the truck. So if you look at the front tires they have a 385 tire not a 425 tire. Its also probably a 20k front axle vs a 22500 front axle with a 425 tire. Its similar to the 80’s Arrow Cab when the Engine was between the jump seats in the back.
#15 by Drew Smith on November 2, 2015 - 1:22 PM
The grill (air intakes) are located above the front axle. I have seen this on some apparatus without a front grill. 30+ years ago most custom cabs didnt have a front grill: Ward LaFrance, Mack CF, Ford C-8000, etc. The grill became necesary when EPA requirements led to the need for more air across the block for cooling and/or combustion.
#16 by David on November 2, 2015 - 12:14 PM
I think this type doesn’t sport the grille. Not that I’ve ever put together any other firetruck than a Lego engine but I’d say that in this phase (when the rig’s nearly completed) at least the hole would be definitely there.
#17 by Crabby Milton on November 2, 2015 - 8:55 AM
I wonder if this one will have the grill omitted? In other words, is that grill something they can slap on at the last minute or is it required to be added early on?