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The color of fire trucks – Harvard/Tonica

Readers submitted comments to our recent post of non-red apparatus in MABAS Division 5 that mentioned a new life for the 1977 Ford/Welch rescue squad from Harvard.

The Harvard Rescue truck was bought by Tonica Volunteer Fire Dept, in LaSalle County in the late ’80?s and refurbed. It was then painted Chrome Yellow and White. It was sold by Tonica, to a chemical plant in Henry, IL for their Haz-mat unit. I was one of the fire personel from Tonica that went up to Marengo to get the truck when we first bought it. Tonica is a not-for-profit organization and gets no tax money. It is supported strictly by donations and grants.

Harvard Rescue Squad 1977 Welch

The Harvard Rescue Squad has this 1977 Ford/Welch unit. Bill Friedrich photo

From Bill Friedrich:

Here is the rig when it went to Tonica. Glad we shot it when it went down here. We travel quite a bit to find old friends as we say. Tonica is located in the Southern tip of LaSalle County.

Tonica Fire Rescue Squad 1715

Tonica Fire Rescue in LaSalle County ran with this 1977 Ford/Welch (X-Harvard Rescue Squad in McHenry County). Bill Friedrich photo

 

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The color of fire trucks (part 7)

MABAS Division 5 encompasses McHenry County. There are 18 departments in the division and several had non-red apparatus over the years. Only three departments had fleets that were lime green and white or yellow; the Nunda Rural Fire Protection District, the Lake in the Hills station of the Algonquin-Lake in the Hills Fire Protection District, and the Woodstock Rural Fire Protection District (now part of the Woodstock Fire/Rescue District). According to the Woodstock Fire/Rescue District website, in October of 1993, the Woodstock Rural Fire Protection District, Woodstock City Fire Department, and Woodstock Rescue Squad merged together to form the Woodstock Fire/Rescue District.

Eight other departments had red fleets, but at one time each had a unit that was painted differently. (Crystal Lake, Hebron, Harvard, the Marengo Rescue Squad, Richmond, Spring Grove, Union, and Woodstock City)

The Crystal Lake Fire Rescue Department  purchased a small rescue squad in 1982 that conformed to the Department of Transportation (DOT) specifications, one of which required that it be delivered painted lime green.

Crystal Lake Fire Rescue Department 1982 E-ONE rescue squad

Crystal Lake bought this 'DOT' spec rescue squad from E-ONE in 1982. Bill Friedrich photo

 

The Hebron-Alden-Greenwood Fire Protection District had a brush truck which was blue in contrast to the rest of the fleet that was painted red.

Hebron Alden Greenwood Fire Protection District brush unit 805

Hebron-Alden-Greenwood Brush 805 was a unique unit within their fleet painted blue. It was on a 1973 GMC chassis with a Stahl body. It carried 250 gallons of water with a pumping capacity of 450 gallons-per-minute. Bill Friedrich photo

 

The Harvard Fire Protection District and the Harvard Rescue Squad ran out of the same station. The Rescue Squad had an orange and white squad which was the only piece with this paint scheme.

Harvard Rescue Squad 1977 Welch

The Harvard Rescue Squad had this 1977 Ford/Welch unit. Bill Friedrich photo

 

The Richmond Fire Protection District had a rescue squad that was painted white.

Richmond Fire Protection District rescue squad

This 1967 Dodge/Stahl unit ran as Squad 1451 for the Richmond Fire Protection District. Bill Friedrich photo

 

The Spring Grove Fire Protection District had a squad unit and a tanker that were painted white.

Spring Grove Fire Protection District Rescue 1807

The Spring Grove Fire Protection District had this 1977 GMC Step Van that was modified by department personnel. It was Rescue 1807. Bill Friedrich photo

 

The Union Fire Protection District ran a white Ford/Darley engine in 19__ which was the only lime green piece in the fleet.

Union Fire Protection District 1975 Ford Darley tanker

Engine 1505, a 1975 Darley on a Ford L-Series chassis was the only lime green unit that the Union Fire Protection District ran with. It had a 750-GPM pump and carried 1,000 gallons of water. Bill Friedrich photo

 

The Woodstock City Fire Department purchased a Seagrave quad in 1967 that was painted white, and  they also had a white brush truck, a 1969 Dodge W300/Welch 250/200.

City of Woodstock Fire Department 1967 Seagrave Quad

The City of Woodstock Fire Department ran this 1967 Seagrave Quad as Engine 1734. It had a 1,000-GPM pump and 300 gallons of water. Bill Friedrich photo

 

The Algonquin-Lake in the Hills Fire District had two stations in years past. The apparatus at the Lake in the Hills station was painted yellow. They had a 1968 IHC/Welch squad and there were two additional pumpers at the Lake In the Hills station that were painted chrome yellow;  a 1972, IHC Cargostar-Alexis  750/750, and a 1975, IHC Cargostar-Bean  750/1000.

Algonquin-Lake in the Hills Fire Protection District 1968 Welch rescue squad

Trucks at the Lake in the Hills fire station used to be yellow and the apparatus at the Algonquin station were red. This 1968 IHC/Welch rescue squad was on of three yellow units. Bill Friedrich photo

 

The Nunda Rural Fire Protection District changed their fleet from lime green/white to red/black.

Nunda Rural Fire Protection District Engine 1336 FMC

The Nunda Rural Fire Protection District trucks used to be painted lime green and white like the 1984 Ford C8000/Darley 1250/1000 shown here. Bill Friedrich photo

 

When the Woodstock Rural Fire Protection and the Woodstock City Fire Department were separate entities, the rural apparatus was painted lime green & white.

Woodstock Rural Fire Protection District Spartan Darley top-mount engine

The Woodstock Rural Fire Protection District ran this 1986 Darley with a Spartan 4-dr CFC cab. The top-mount pump panel controlled a 1,000-GPM pump and the engine carried 1,00 gallons of water. Larry Shapiro photo

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The color of fire trucks (part 4)

The next installment in this series about Chicago area fire trucks looks into departments in MABAS Division 3 that over the years have changed over to red fire apparatus. Also highlighted is a department that was always red but at one time had an engine that was a different color.

Deerfield had two Ward LaFrance P80 series engines with the Ambassador cab. Engine 720 was delivered in 1973 with a 1,250-GPM pump and Engine 712 came in 1977. Engine 720 carried 750 gallons of water , Engine 712 carried 1,000 gallons, and both were painted white over lime green.

Deerfield-Bannockburn Fire Department 1977 Ward LaFrance Ambassador engine

Deerfield Engine 712 was a 1977 Ward LaFrance P80 with an Ambassador cab. It had a 1,500-GPM pump with 1,000 gallons of water. Larry Shapiro collection

The Glenbrook Fire Protection District (formerly the Glenview Rural Fire Protection District) merged with the Glenview Fire Department in 1992. The original Glenview Rural trucks were red, then sometime after the district name changed  the Glenbrook apparatus was transitioned to yellow. Subsequent purchases arrived yellow. The department had three American LaFrance Pioneer Series engines, one of which was a newer Pioneer II model. They also had a small squad and a 1968 Ford/Snorkel. The red 75-foot Snorkel was refurbished in 1986 and came back yellow from Pierce with a new four-door Arrow cab. Later they purchased a newer squad from Hackney and two Pierce Arrow engines.

Glenbrook Fire Protection District Engine 144 1976 American LaFrance Pioneer

Glenbrook Engine 144 was a 1976 Pioneer Series from American LaFrance with 750 gallons of water and a 1,250-GPM pump. Larry Shapiro collection

Glenview apparatus has always been red. In 1975, they purchased a pumper-squad from Seagrave with a 300-gallon water tank. Squad 8 came white over lime green. This unit was later repainted red but retained the white roof.

Glenview Fire Department 1975 Seagrave PB series pumper squad

Glenview had this one unit that was not painted red. Pumper-Squad 8 was a 1975 Seagrave P-Series with 300 gallons of water and a 1,500-GPM pump. Larry Shapiro collection

For many years, Northbrook painted their units yellow, having previously been red. They had three engines, a Sutphen tower ladder, two squad units, and utility vehicles that were yellow. They also had a matching yellow stripe on their modular ambulances. The apparatus changed to white over red in 1996 when they received two engines, a squad, and a ladder from Pierce.

Northbrook Fire Department Engine 58 1975 American LaFrance Pacemaker

Northbrook Engine 58 was a 1975 American LaFrance Pacemaker Series engine with 500 gallons of water and a 1,000-GPM pump. The Pacemaker was a conventional custom fire cab by TCM instead of an American LaFrance custom Century or Pioneer cab. Larry Shapiro collection

The Park Ridge Fire Department ran with white over lime green apparatus for many years. Including this conventional Pirsch engine, they had a Mack CF/Pirsch mid-mount ladder, a custom cab-over Pirsch engine, and two Seagrave WB Series low profile engines that were painted to match. They also had stripes on their modular ambulances that matched the apparatus. All but the mid-mount ladder were later repainted red.

Park Ridge 1958 conventional Pirsch fire engine

Park Ridge Engine 44 shown here at a fire scene, was a 1958 conventional cab Pirsch with 500 gallons of water and a 1,000-GPM pump. Steve Redick collection

To see the earlier posts in this series, enter the word color into the search field.

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The color of fire trucks (part 3)

The third post in this series outlines the departments in Division 2 that have converted their apparatus over the years to red.

The Bartlett & Countryside Fire Protection District had several generations of engines that were painted bright yellow. These included two Hendickson-Howe engines, one Ford-Howe engine, one Ford-Grumman engine, two Seagrave engines, and a Chevy-Super Vac squad. They switched to black over red in 1986.

Bartlett & Countryside FPD Hendrickson Howe top-mount engine

This unit that was assigned as Engine 612 was delivered in 1973 by Howe. It featured a small top-mount pump console for the 1,000-GPM pump. It carried 800 gallons of water and was on an International chassis with a Hendrickson 1871S cab. Larry Shapiro collection

The Hanover Park & Ontarioville Fire Protection District had multiple units that were white over lime green before switching to black over red in 2001. They had three Hendrickson-Howe engines similar to the ones in Bartlett, a Hendrickson-American-LTI truck, a Spartan-EONE squad, a Spartan-EONE engine, and an EONE Cyclone engine, all of which were painted white/green.

Hanover Park FIre Department Hendrickson LTI fire truck

Hanover Park ran this 1977 American Fire Apparatus unit that had a 100' LTI rear-mount aerial and was built on a Hendrickson chassis with an 1871S cab. Larry Shapiro collection.

Previous posts in this series are HERE and HERE.

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The color of fire trucks (part 2)

Last week’s posting HERE about different colors for fire apparatus mentioned area departments that have apparatus that is not red (or red & white or red & black). Several departments have switched from other colors to red, and several readers pointed out that some still have rigs with the old colors.

This is the first in a series of postings that will highlight the departments that have switched or might have had a unit in the past that was a different color than the rest of the fleet.

Division 1:

Arlington Heights once purchased a Mack CF engine that was a demo and came white over lime green.

Arlington Heights Fire Department 1975 Mack CF engine

Arlington Heights Engine 411 was a 1975 Mack CF engine with a 1,500-GPM pump and 500 gallons of water. Larry Shapiro collection

Elk Grove Village had a lime green Mack CF engine.

Elk Grove Village Fire Department Engine 118 1977 Mack CF

Elk Grove Village once owned this 1977 Mack engine with a CF600 chassis. It carried 700 gallons of water with a 1,250-GPM pump. Larry Shapiro collection

Mt. Prospect used to paint their fleet white over yellow. Over the years, this included at least five engines and two mid-ship mounted aerials.

Mount Prospect Fire Department 1975 Pierce engine Hendrickson

Mount Prospect had two engines with the Hendrickson 1871-S cab. One was built by Boyer, and this engine was built by Pierce with a 1,000-GPM pump and 500-gallon water tank. Larry Shapiro collection

Palatine had a white over lime green Seagrave engine.

Palatine Fire Department 1973 Seagrave PB-Model engine

Palatine had this one 1973 Seagrave Model PB engine with a 1,500-GPM pump and 500 gallons of water. Larry Shapiro collection

Rolling Meadows had two units that were white over lime green. In addition to this Pierce, they had a medium-duty squad with a PTO pump built by E-ONE on a GMC chassis.

Rolling Meadows Fire Department 1979 Pierce Suburban engine

Rolling Meadows ran with this 1979 Pierce Suburban engine that was built on a Ford L9000 chassis. Engine 612 carried 500 gallons of water and had a 1,250-GPM pump. Larry Shapiro collection

Wheeling apparatus used to be white over lime green. From the late 1960s when Ward LaFrance pioneered the push to painting apparatus lime green through the purchase of the 1994 Sutphen tower ladder that is currently being used, all Wheeling units had this color scheme.

Wheeling Fire Department Ward LaFrance P80 Ambassador engine

Wheeling purchased two Model P80 engines from Ward LaFrance on Ambassador chassis. In addition to this 1969 unit, they purchased a second engine in 1971. Engine 1 had a 1,250-GPM pump, 500 gallons of water, and a mid-ship elevating platform with a pre-piped deluge gun. Larry Shapiro collection

And here’s one last image to show the Palm Beach Gardens green that was referred to in the article from the Wall Street Journal.

 

Palm Beach Gardens Fire Department Rescue Engine 5 Pierce Arrow

Palm Beach Gardens Engine 5 shown here as a 1999 Pierce Arrow with a 1,250-GPM pump and 750 gallons of water. This was formerly built in 1990 on a Pierce Javelin chassis. Larry Shapiro collection

 

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The color of fire trucks

The Wall Street Journal has a story which touches on the time honored fire service debate about the color of fire apparatus. The article is a piece about a small district in Florida which maintains a fleet that is painted a non-traditional color.

Throughout the rest of the country, red is the typical color for emergency vehicles—fire-engine red as the shade is often and aptly called. But for nearly four decades, firefighters in Palm Beach Gardens have opted for a garish yellow-green that they argue is easier to spot from a distance, even in the pea soup of a South Florida summer thunderstorm. The proof that Fire Chief Pete Bergel often cites: In his 30 years with the city, no fire-department vehicle has been rear-ended. The color “is in your face,” he says.

Throughout the rest of the country, red is the typical color for emergency vehicles—fire-engine red as the shade is often and aptly called. But for nearly four decades, firefighters in Palm Beach Gardens have opted for a garish yellow-green that they argue is easier to spot from a distance, even in the pea soup of a South Florida summer thunderstorm. The proof that Fire Chief Pete Bergel often cites: In his 30 years with the city, no fire-department vehicle has been rear-ended. The color “is in your face,” he says.

Local departments that are not red include Elk Grove Township in Division 1, Pingree-Grove and Rutland-Dundee in Division 2, Glencoe in Division 3, Fox Lake and Winthrop Harbor in Division 4, Clarendon Hills in Division 10, Fox River & Countryside in Division 13, Coal City in Division 15, Lisle-Woodridge in Division 16, Elwood in Division 19, and Crete in Division 27.

Over the years, many departments in the area have switched to red or a red two-tone color scheme from white, yellow, and lime green.

The complete Wall Street Journal article can be found HERE.

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