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#1 by Moonunit on December 29, 2018 - 5:38 PM
The units from Rosenbauer were delayed a significant amount of time due to bickering over what the city thought they should be getting vs. what the bid spec documents stated. I’m sure there was some delay with the new design product of the booms, but those inside at Rosenbauer battled some fleet people at CFD for far too long due to egos.
#2 by John Antkowski on December 22, 2018 - 8:27 AM
Is Chicago the only city that still runs with snorkel apparatus? If it’s so hard to find products to replace them maybe it’s time for consider another style of elevated platform device. I think Metz makes a single axle rear mount with a bucket. Something of a smaller tower ladder. The amount of time Chicago waited for those 8 rigs was horrible. As a consumer would you want to wait that long for maybe a car, boat or something else special made. Maybe the people who do the bidding should start talking to E/one on future options for Snorkel Squad apparatus being the city is using them for a complete fleet upgrade. John
#3 by Bill Post on December 20, 2018 - 10:25 PM
There is no doubt this was an interesting find however I wonder if the CFD was in on this proposal for an ALF Snorkel squad because my understanding was even though ALF had the rights to build the Snorkel they had stopped marketing and selling them for several years before they closed down?
#4 by Danny on December 20, 2018 - 3:36 PM
Mike they came out of the bankruptcy and never really stopped till Lynn tilton and her group shit it down in 2014
#5 by Mike on December 16, 2018 - 10:02 AM
LaFrance stopped production and basically went out of business in 2008.
https://www.jems.com/articles/2008/01/bankrupt-american-lafrance-owe.html
I think everything was finalized a few years later. Departments had apparatus in production when everything stopped too.
#6 by David on December 16, 2018 - 6:54 AM
Wow, is this for real? I’ve never heard that they planned anything like this.
#7 by Luke Jackson on December 15, 2018 - 8:00 PM
Since they made designed ALF snorkel squads, I wonder if they also designed ALF box squads as well. What were some of the issues they had?
#8 by Martin on December 15, 2018 - 5:24 PM
Luke you are right. They went out of business in 2014 but I think these never went through because CFD was (still) having issues with the American LAfrance products.
#9 by Luke Jackson on December 15, 2018 - 1:20 PM
Maybe the CFD wanted more reserve snorkel squads available because the Spartan/E-one snorkels were well ready to be retired by 2007. And I’m pretty sure that American LaFrance went out of business in 2014.
#10 by Mike on December 14, 2018 - 5:05 PM
This was about those LaFrance went under because the owner was embezzling from the company. When they went under they still owned the rights to snorkel and LTI and some other patents too. That is why there was a delay in replacement of things. I think it took rosey a couple years to come up the AP design.
#11 by Marty Coyne on December 14, 2018 - 3:53 PM
If I’m reading the date right this is interesting. I see 3/15/07. The old squads were barely 7 years old then. I can’t see them specing replacements already. I wonder what the story was.