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New engines for Chicago (more)

updated production photos of the new engines for Chicago

E-ONE photo

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#1 by Bill Post on July 16, 2016 - 3:24 AM

Well here is some interesting news. The three new E/One engines were numbered at the Fire Service Inc service center for Engines 121, 73 and 50.
This is quite a surprise as Engines 73 and 121 are both located in Battalion 21 and are only about 2 miles apart. All three of the companies are south side units. Engine 121 is not currently an ALS company, however it is using one of the HME/Luverne rigs which is among the oldest still in front line service. I wonder if Engine 50’s and Engine 73’s current Spartan rigs will be handed down to any of the companies using 1997 HME/Luvernes which are the oldest engines?
#2 by David on July 6, 2016 - 1:00 PM

@Fred M: I’d say the “Chicago Fire Dept. Engines and Hook & Ladders 1966 – 1995” is probably the last book Bill Friedrich did on the CFD apparatus so far. I once asked Bill through Email if he’s planning something like a CFD equivalent to the FDNY “Wheels Of The Bravest” and he told me something in the sense that he was thinking about doing something like this if he’ll find the time but this was some 8-10 years ago…
#3 by Fred M on July 5, 2016 - 2:00 PM

Bill – who does the lettering and other graphics on inbound rigs…..the dealer or “shops”??

Also, does anyone know if Bill Friedrich and Mark Mitchell ever did another book on CFD rigs? I have the ‘Engine and Hook & Ladder 1966-1995 book, but lost touch with them over the years.
- #4 by John on July 6, 2016 - 7:55 PM
  
  I’m sorry it’s e-oneinprocess.com.
#5 by Mike G on July 5, 2016 - 11:40 AM

John whats the webpage link to view the pumps
- #6 by John on July 6, 2016 - 7:49 PM
  
  It’s called eoneprocess.com. You can fallow all the rigs in production. At the plant. I like it. John
#7 by John on July 3, 2016 - 4:48 PM

Hey guys, I just checked out the status of the new e-one engines for Chicago. Apparently, shop # 140156 is at the local delivery center ready to be delivered and eventually join the fleet. I still would love to know what companies they are going to. Check out the website! It’s pretty cool. If anyone has any ideas or thoughts please share it with us. Take care John
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#8 by MABAS 21 on June 9, 2016 - 7:55 PM

Sharp looking batch of engines! Just wish they had the Mars 888 lights on them! Hopefully they will hold up much better than the Spartan ERV’s. Is there any feedback from members of CFD regarding the new tower ladders?
#9 by John on June 9, 2016 - 2:09 PM

For anyone out there. I just looked on the eoneprocess website and the 3 new engines for Chicago are in their final assembly. They look sharp. 140158 was pump testing. I can’t wait to see them go in service. I wish we would change vendors in Milwaukee. The pierce engines we have aren’t built as well as the older models. Take care. John
#10 by John on June 8, 2016 - 5:14 PM

Bill, Thanks for the comments. I believe that your right about engines 116 or 38 getting them. From what I’ve looked at the e-one engine seems to have been built better. I hope that they hold up better than the spartan crimson engines. John
#11 by Jason on June 7, 2016 - 6:38 PM

@Bill Kugelman
The only thing that Chicago changed with the colors is the battalion buggies. The air mask vehicles have had red roofs. So, I’m going to assume that all of the rigs will have Chicago colors.
#12 by Bill Kugelman on June 7, 2016 - 3:07 PM

Looks like that one rig has CFD colors !!!!
#13 by Bill Post on June 7, 2016 - 9:13 AM

John, so far it appears that the assignment of the three new engines hasn’t been announced, and it isn’t until they are delivered that we will actually find out where they’ll go.
Most likely they’ll be assigned to some of the busier ALS engines and the units that are replaced will probably be handed down to one of five companies running with a 1997 HME/Luverne, which are the oldest engines in frontline service. In recent years the busier engines (which tend to be ALS) will get newer units every several years where they get broken in, and the rigs that they are using will get reassigned to slower companies with older rigs.
Currently Chicago has 96 land-based engine companies in service and about 60 of them are ALS equipped. About 95% of 20 busiest are ALS. As mentioned on a previous post in this thread, it is very likely that they will be assigned to Engines 38 and 116 as they usually are in the top five of the busiest engine companies. It is only speculation at the moment however.
#14 by John on June 6, 2016 - 3:51 PM

I love your website. I am a career Firefighter with Milwaukee fire department. I enjoy following the Chicago updates and news. I also enjoy the fire pictures. I would like to add does anyone know where the new e-one engines are going.
#15 by John on June 6, 2016 - 2:46 PM

I love E92. It’s uniqueness has always interested me.
#16 by Bill Post on June 6, 2016 - 9:47 AM

Thanks Matt, it looks like Chicago is still running a one of a kind rig.
I understand that this E/One purchase of three pumpers was actually (believe it or not) an add-on to the O’Hare contract from two years ago. I had read that the O’Hare contract was for up to five engines, so since only two were needed for the airport they were able to apply the rest of the contract for the engines on order. The unusual thing about it is that airport rigs are federally funded so I wouldn’t think that they could apply the contract to rigs for the city, but apparently they were able to. I would guess that the city is paying for the three rigs unless that is federal money also?
- #17 by Matt on June 6, 2016 - 12:47 PM
  
  The Feds through the FAA withholds the airport fees on every plane ticket that is due to the city or entity that owns or operates the airport. The resulting fund is used for the purchase of new equipment, vehicles, and or new improvements to the airport. So, yes the Feds have the money but it is the City’s to spend for fire equipment, snow throwers, etc.
#18 by Matt on June 6, 2016 - 7:50 AM

E92 is still assigned the Freightliner/ALF and the rig is still in service as of Memorial Day
#19 by Bill Post on June 6, 2016 - 1:35 AM

Are you sure the Engine 92 is still using the 2000 Freightliner? I could have sworn that I had heard that they were no longer using it as of at least a year or more ago?
#20 by JS on June 5, 2016 - 11:35 PM

Nice. Only downfall is the crappy Federal Signal lighting
#21 by Jason on June 5, 2016 - 2:51 PM

There is no reason why E92 should be receiving a brand new engine over the others, since there are many engines that are older than it. There are still 1997s on front line service. A rig that is over 15 years of service should be removed from front line service. Yes, E92 is older than 15 years but still, there are older rigs. The new rigs should be given to the busiest engine companies and then the 1997s will get the hand-me-downs.
#22 by Aidan Hughes on June 5, 2016 - 9:49 AM

E92 runs a 2000 Freightliner/American LaFrance 1500/500 pumper. I think they should assign one of the three E-One engines to E92. E92 is a BLS unit. Wait is E92 getting a hand me down?
#23 by Bill Post on June 5, 2016 - 1:41 AM

Not all of the downtown engines are triple-stage high-pressure pumpers. The only ones are Engines 98, 42, 5, and Engine 60 in Hyde Park. Engines 1 and 13 do not have triple-stage pumps.

Do you know what year and make Engine 92 is running with? Currently the five oldest frontline engines to my knowledge are at Engines 94, 28, 104, 80, and 121 which are 1997 HME/Luvernes. Those were the first batch of HME engines delivered to the CFD and they are the ones with the longer wheelbase and standard, non-rollup cabinet doors.

It is more likely that the new E/One engines would go to some of the busier ALS units like was suggested on this thread. The engines that they replace will probably be handed down to replace three of those five HME equipped engines.
#24 by DANNY on June 4, 2016 - 6:24 PM

I BELIEVE ITS SLATED FOR AUG/ SEPT AT THE LATEST
#25 by Aidan Hughes on June 4, 2016 - 6:11 PM

They should assign one of them to Engine 92.
- #26 by 0.03 on June 4, 2016 - 9:34 PM
  
  92 isn’t getting one of those rigs. They’re gonna get another hand me down, if they even get a newer rig at all.
#27 by Michael M on June 4, 2016 - 3:35 PM

They look like they will be finished soon! Anyone have any ideas where they may be assigned? If I had to guess, they will more than likely be assigned downtown. Maybe Engine 1, 13, and 42?
- #28 by 0.03 on June 4, 2016 - 9:36 PM
  
  None of those companies are getting these rigs as they are high pressure rigs. 2000 GPM 3 stage pumps. The new rigs are probably going to 38, 116 and a player to be named later.
#29 by Bill Kugelman on June 4, 2016 - 11:07 AM

Hey, ????They’ve got black tops too.